We finally got to Hollywood, hurrah! (Actually it is Holywood but nearly...)

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Where: The Esplanade, Holywood BT18 0NT, UK

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Holywood, County Down is a great place to visit on this morning after the BAFTAs - given that they frequently indicate who might win the Oscars! Holywood looks pristine in this lovely cabinet sized shot. But how has it fared in the meantime?

Seemingly, in the meantime, much of the streetscape from this image has changed. In fact, without the church in the distance, and the wall in the right foreground, it may have been difficult to place. However, Niall McAuley has suggested(with corroberation from others) that this image is taken from under the railway arch on Holywood's Esplanade. The houses pictured, at Marine Parade, are all but gone. Even the lagoon which takes up much of this picture was filled-in and built-over. Only the spire (or indeed the lack of one) on the distant church helps with dating - suggesting that this image was taken after the church of St Colmcille was built (1872-1874) but before its spire was added (1888-1890)....


Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Possibly c.1870s-1880s (church/spire)

NLI Ref: L_CAB_01278

You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie

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    Niall McAuley

    • 19/Feb/2018 09:32:02

    Marine Parade, with the railway embankment to the right? If so, it's all gone now.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 19/Feb/2018 09:37:18

    I am thinking near here in streetview,

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    Niall McAuley

    • 19/Feb/2018 09:47:25

    The OSNI viewer at PRONI is not very link friendly, but I think the chimney at right is the Gas Works, and the low building with arched windows at right is the train station. the row of houses is Marine Parade, which had a tidal lagoon, and it has all been paved over to make the A2 Holywood bypass road.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 19/Feb/2018 09:57:04

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] I think you have the right bit of wall. Reverse birdseye view helps a bit; that house with three chimneys and an angled bit is recognizable, as is the railway bridge - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000335068

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    Vab2009

    • 19/Feb/2018 10:01:41

    I have just been battling PRONI too! The buildings here look so recognizable but that is just because they resemble those in Shore Street.

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    Vab2009

    • 19/Feb/2018 10:14:39

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] I agree. Got the map and it looks exactly right. So the photograph is taken from under the railway arch.

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    Vab2009

    • 19/Feb/2018 10:15:54

    By the 1919 - 1963 map edition it looks like the lagoon has benn filled in but the bypass was after that. But does that date the photograph pre 1919.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 19/Feb/2018 10:25:29

    The reverse view linked above means Mr French must have clambered up the tower or spire of St Colmcille's Church, which was built in 1874, according to stcolmcillesholywood.org/ . The church should be visible from this angle (I think) so possibly this photo is before 1874 (railway happened in 1848) ?? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holywood

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    Foxglove

    • 19/Feb/2018 12:18:41

    Oh don't want to spoil the "lights camera action" imagery of movie lan north down ..... but is should enlisted as Holywood.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 19/Feb/2018 12:42:41

    On St. Colmcilles, the DIA says the spire was added in 1888. I see what might be the spireless church in megazoom left of the left-hand tree. If so, date is 1874 to 88.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 19/Feb/2018 12:48:33

    On a complete tangent, I just came across the Welch collection of photos from 1880-1935 at the National Museums of Northern Ireland.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 19/Feb/2018 17:21:05

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove] Mea culpa - in fairness the title on the plate says "Holywood"! A suitable amendment has been made to the title. I've also updated the text and map to account for today's other inputs.

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    davidreidgt30

    • 20/Feb/2018 06:30:58

    My great grandfather came from here. I think in the old days they pronounced it like 'Holy' as in the 'Holy Bible,' so it sounded like 'Holy-wood' as opposed to Hollywood in the USA.

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 22/Feb/2018 09:00:16

    good shot