Group of people near the place where Kevin Barry was captured

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Where: 117 Church Street Upper, Inns Quay, Dublin, Ireland

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Keven Barry was arrested on 20th September 1920, are we dealing with a contemporary photo or one taken after the event, the Catalogue date of 1921 would suggest the latter?

The general consensus is that this may have been taken some time after the events of 20 September 1920. Whether a few hours later, days later, or longer, the consensus is that more immediate contemporaneous photos (like this one) suggest a busier scene in the immediate aftermath. That this is the spot, on the corner of North King Street and Church Street, is confirmed however....


Photographer: W. D. Hogan

Collection: Hogan Wilson Collection

Date: Catalogue date c.1921. Possibly late 1920.

NLI Ref.: HOGW 127

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    sam2cents

    • 26/Mar/2018 11:14:28

    I'm interested by the 'T. Clarke' name over the shop - is it Tom Clarke of Rising fame or just a coincidence? It's interested to see so many well-dressed women standing around, so I suspect that's some sort of after-event. My mother is from Bray and she tells me that Kevin Barry's mother lived there and when she was a child she would see her walking around the town, and people were always doffing their hats to her and she was considered a tragic figure. I think that might have been as last as the 1960s. Had he lived Kevin Barry would undoubtedly have reached a ripe old age, although he might have not been very well known. He died very young.

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    silverfox2504

    • 26/Mar/2018 11:29:39

    My grandfather used to sing this after a few glasses: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysH86MMwPs8&list=RDysH86MMwPs8

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Mar/2018 11:33:24

    I think the big door at right may be Monk's bakery on Church Street/North king Street?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/Mar/2018 11:45:47

    Patrick Monk’s Bakery at 79-80 Upper Church Street, near the corner of North King Street, Dublin,

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Mar/2018 11:50:21

    Flickr is sometimes amazing - via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8375121613/in/photostream/]

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Mar/2018 11:52:50

    And this from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/][https://www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/5568773230/] ... is here on streetview - goo.gl/maps/mMp8PF1yiBr

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Mar/2018 13:18:25

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/sam2cents] I think it is just a coincidence. As far as I know Tom Clarke had a tobacconists shop on or close to O'Connell Street.

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    sam2cents

    • 26/Mar/2018 13:46:13

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Thanks for that, Nat! It is a fairly common name, but you never know. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Wow! I have never heard of a photo being taken at the scene, although I know of some famous ones, like the aftermath of Sean Treacy's death in gunfight. I'm fascinated by the little boy recounting what's happened to the guy with the bike. That's one thing that we never hear much about - Kevin Barry did kill a man, but we never hear much about his victim.

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    John A. Coffey

    • 26/Mar/2018 15:26:13

    No 80 Church St. T. Clarke, Dairy, No.79 Church St. Patk` Monks, Bakers ( from Thom`s 1935), junction of N.King St. / Church St. where Kevin Barry was arrested, the plaque is on The Tap Bar (now closed).

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    John A. Coffey

    • 26/Mar/2018 15:36:38

    Thomas Clarke had a Tobacconist shop in Drumcondra (1911) later at Parnell St.

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    silverio10

    • 26/Mar/2018 18:54:45

    Buena serie de fotos antiguas .

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    O Mac

    • 26/Mar/2018 19:15:03

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/sam2cents] Barry was tried and hanged for the murder of a Private Marshall Whitehead. www.cairogang.com/soldiers-killed/kevin-barry-ambush/whit...

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    guliolopez

    • 26/Mar/2018 19:27:08

    I lived around the corner for many years. Never stepped foot in the Tap. Though was aware of the Kevin Barry connection. And indeed the connection with the North King Street massacre a few short years before this photo was taken. And the destruction at the Four Courts, Greek Street and Mary's Lane that would be wreaked a few short years later. Many of the people pictured witnessed more than their fair share of violence in that period.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 26/Mar/2018 21:03:19

    I knew nothing about this dreadful incident, but I am puzzled that the shopfronts in the two photos do not match, so it is difficult to work out exactly where the NLI Hogan photo is - it has the title "near the place where Kevin Barry was captured". Some detailed history from - irishistory.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/just-lad-of-18-summer... - ... The British soldiers quickly loaded up their dead and wounded They were ready to drive off when an old woman shouted at them to be careful as there was a young lad under the lorry. They jumped out and grabbed the boy. This was Kevin Barry. His gun had jammed when he first began to shoot. He fixed it, and then began shooting at the soldiers again. But it jammed a second time. He was lying on the ground concentrating on trying to fix the gun when he realised the battle was over and the rest of the Volunteers has escaped. He quickly dived under the lorry so the soldiers would not see him. He would have got away with it if the old woman had not shouted for the soldiers to be careful. They dragged him out and threw him into the back of the lorry beside the dead soldier. The Irish crowd that had gathered turned on the woman calling her a traitor. She tried to tell them that she did not realise what she was saying until it was too late, and was only afraid that the lorry would run over the lad. The Black and Tans raided nearby houses and shops There was chaos after the ambush. More regular British soldiers and Black and Tans arrived and closed off the streets. They raided nearby houses and shops. The crowd that had gathered ran for cover as they knew the British soldiers were looking for trouble. They searched the onlookers and wanted to know the names of the other men. The shop owners closed their doors knowing that the ambush would be used as an excuse for the Black and Tans to loot and damage the area. Also - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Barry

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    sam2cents

    • 27/Mar/2018 00:59:19

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thanks for that, Mac!

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    fraser donachie

    • 27/Mar/2018 09:39:08

    ... interesting graffiti ... although it can’t be deciphered ...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Mar/2018 05:31:57

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I would say the reverse: I know exactly where the NLI photo is taken, 79-80 Upper Church Street, with Clarke's #80 on the corner of North King Street, Dublin, where the Tap is now. I do not know where the flickr picture of the crowd is.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Mar/2018 05:41:37

    From the Shadows, we are likely looking East, so if it is nearby, we are probably looking East along N. King St. from the Church St. junction in that one.