Tams and a Fez perambulating with a perambulator! (Rhyl in Wales)

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Where: West Parade, Rhyl, Rhyl, LL18 3AH, United Kingdom

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To end the week we have yet another example of a Clarke street shot. This kind of candid photograph is much practiced and has many followers. Given the equipment Clarke had available at the time however, these are especially fine examples! That young buck sitting on the side of the pram looks like he he is being held back or he would run wild! Where was it taken and when? Perhaps La Belle Province can help identify the headgear and help with the date?

While others did help us with details of headgear (including the toddler's Fez and the ladies' Tam Caps), it was Frank_C who provided the most coveted of inputs - on location. In short, Frank's suggestion (seconded by others) is that this is the Parade in Rhyl, North Wales. And it is still quite recognisable today.....


Photographers: J. J. Clarke

Collection: Clarke Photographic Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1890-1910? Likely c.1900

NLI Ref: CLAR76

You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2018 07:43:02

    Dun Laoghaire or Salthill perhaps? Very early for the electric lighting. Bray, even? No, that 4 storey terrace looks taller then Bray.

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    domenico milella

    • 06/Jul/2018 08:09:12

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2018 08:09:51

    Sun angle suggests the terrace may be facing North to the sea?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2018 08:37:02

    Like Margate, for example.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2018 08:48:55

    I found a swan necked electric light like that on the parade at St. Leonards-on-Sea

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    guliolopez

    • 06/Jul/2018 10:40:44

    Brilliant shot. The young fella is gas. His hat especially intriguing. A young Tommy Cooper perhaps?

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    guliolopez

    • 06/Jul/2018 17:30:44

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley]'s suggestion on St Leonards-on-Sea seems quite plausible to me. Certainly the buildings (including their height), promenade and lampposts all seem to match up. I had a look through a number of photos posted in the East Sussex County Council Libraries historical photo stream, which includes some examples like the below. I couldn't find anything definitive, but seems possible to me. (Certainly I'm not convinced we're in Ireland. Or, at least, the height of the buildings and the length of the prom don't match any Irish seaside towns I'm familiar with). www.flickr.com/photos/escchistoricalpics/14135717742/

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    sam2cents

    • 06/Jul/2018 21:53:06

    Fantastic image!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Jul/2018 22:12:19

    I am not confident this is St Leonard's, but there are certainly British proms with 4.5 storey terraces, I don't know of one in Ireland

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    Frank_C

    • 07/Jul/2018 01:16:58

    Not 100% sure, but think it could be Rhyl - there's another photo of his from there in the catalogue : Street View : goo.gl/maps/cz5caue7TPu Some building changes, but close enough ? Other photo from 1960's also looks close enough :

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    Frank_C

    • 07/Jul/2018 01:22:06

    Another one from 1906 (or earlier) :

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Jul/2018 07:20:53

    Well done [https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankc_ie] What a thrill to discover it's Rhyl ...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Jul/2018 07:25:13

    Mr J. J. Clarke went to Holyhead in Wales in 1902 - 1904 - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/10418064245/]

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jul/2018 07:42:08

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankc_ie] Excellent detective work, welcome to the fold!!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Jul/2018 08:29:07

    Interesting ... fifty years earlier, in 1854, David Cox painted a series of landscapes of Rhyl sands - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/dogfael/3489564314/] More information - www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/cox-rhyl-sands-t04130 artsandculture.google.com/asset/rhyl-sands/cgFpZBLmHIpa6Q www.andrewgrahamdixon.com/archive/itp-120-rhyl-sands-by-d... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cox_(artist)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jul/2018 09:17:54

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] You will get overtime for working on a Saturday!!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Jul/2018 09:27:35

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Ha ha - I am enjoying the beachcombing! Always wonder why Flickr grinds to a halt at weekends; perhaps because people are flickring at work during the week? Flickr is sometimes amazing! In 2007 via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/colinmorris/][https://www.flickr.com/photos/colinmorris/413904868/]

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Jul/2018 09:51:25

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankc_ie] Well done! Rhyl it is, and indeed the terrace is facing NW to the sea per the sun angle.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jul/2018 11:14:23

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment :)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jul/2018 11:15:40

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] The Sun never lets us down!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jul/2018 11:20:46

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankc_ie] Here is a link to the Catalogue photo you mentioned CLAR67 And, in the meantime, based on your inputs (and corroberation from others) I've updated the map/description/etc. Thanks again!

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 08/Jul/2018 20:03:53

    Hmmm. Is that wee bucket for what I think it's for?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 08/Jul/2018 21:44:40

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Spend a penny in the wee bucket and the child sings and dances - youtu.be/KyFniXdqsQQ?t=43s (1909 recording of 1907 song) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Do_Like_To_be_Beside_the_Seaside

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 10/Jul/2018 08:00:06

    Wonderful capture 👏👏👏