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When: 01 July 1917

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A victory parade following an election in Ennis in County Clare, seemingly with the Countess Markievicz in the lead wearing a white coat/dress. Finding the date will be easy but finding the location might be interesting - given the blank stone wall is the only distinguishing feature(?)

Based on the contributions (past and more recent) on this image, it seems pretty clear the subject is a (victory) parade of Sinn Féin supporters, related to the East Clare by election of July 1917. DeValera won in a near landslide against the IPP candidate - in a precursor of what was to come in the 1918 general election. DeValera can be seen among the crowd - inline with the trunk of one of the right-hand trees, and below a man with a bike. As predicted, a confirmed location has been more elusive, although derangedlemur offers a solid candidate for that ballot on Cusack Rd (then Gaol Rd)....


Photographer: Brendan Keogh

Collection: Keogh Photographic Collection

Date: c.1916 - 1920. But almost certainly July 1917.

NLI Ref: Ke 130

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    derangedlemur

    • 16/Sep/2016 07:49:42

    Bagpipes rather than uilleann pipes. They're not trad musicians, so, but they look like a Dublin crowd anyway.

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    derangedlemur

    • 16/Sep/2016 07:54:00

    On the way back to the station, maybe? maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,534088,677055,11,9 Or out by Westbourne? www.google.ie/maps/@52.8476561,-8.9889814,3a,75y,27.8h,83...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Sep/2016 07:55:15

    Based on a tweet by the Clare Herald, it's the East Clare by-election of 1917. So around the same time as: [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/10570624475/]

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2016 08:41:29

    Looks familiar... Clare elections, victory procession led by pipers, Countess Markievicz in white coat The only comment there was from some dude who said : Perhaps the 1917 Clare bye-election, won by De Valera for Sinn Féin?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2016 08:44:24

    Also related: Election campaigning, busy street scene

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    guliolopez

    • 16/Sep/2016 09:14:52

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] RE:

    comment from some dude
    I respectfully refer you to "some guy" :)

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    j.coffey78

    • 16/Sep/2016 10:06:12

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Uilleann pipes are played while sitting down, traditional Irish and Scottish music is usually played by bagpipers.

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    derangedlemur

    • 16/Sep/2016 10:28:46

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Now you mention it, I've never seen a marching uilleann pipe band.

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    philfluther

    • 16/Sep/2016 10:31:13

    Comments 2. Hair's breadth, Conscription. "inconceivable madness" Maud Gonne, War. Maud Gonne possibly quoting Cicero. Briar, resistance swagger stick. On whereabouts, possibly Marley.

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    aidanhodson

    • 16/Sep/2016 10:59:11

    I presume that's Dev himself in the crowd just under the bicycle

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Sep/2016 11:55:31

    There is something not-quite-right about this - Countess Markievicz is wearing a different frock and hat on the steps of the Court House - was it the same day, c. 11/7/1917 ? catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000030981 or cropped - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10570986605/] . . . ^ here on the left - looks like she is using a camera

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    Seanieseye

    • 16/Sep/2016 13:31:44

    Bag pipes were used to lead everything from parades to flying columns . Tom Barry used them to great effect at the CrossBarry Ambush 1921, when his men were way outnumbered ( 104 IRA Rebels ) . He got the pipers to play making the approaching English Regulars and RIC , ( 1200 + 120 ) believe they would be facing a battalion of rebels ( up to 1,000 ) , as only a Battalion would boldly announce themselves with pipes . the rouse worked and all but 6 of the Rebels escaped , with approx' 30/40 killed on the English side . The Pipes along with the Harp are among our oldest instruments I guess only the drum and whistle out date them. And yes we use both Bag Pipes and Uilleann Pipes .. Marching Bands use the Bag Pipes while Traditional musicians usually favor the Uilleann Pipes.. Isn't History Grand ..

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2016 13:52:44

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I don't see any reason to suppose the lady in the white hat in 30891 is the Countess?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Sep/2016 21:25:59

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] I am going by this quote via the Clare Library site (excellent background for anyone interested) - www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/claremuseum/news_events/1917_ri... " ... Afterwards, de Valera appeared on the steps of the Courthouse in Ennis wearing his Volunteers uniform accompanied by Countess Markievicz, Count Plunkett MP, and Sinn Fein Leader Arthur Griffith. ... " The lady in the white hat seems to be the only female on the steps, or anywhere nearby.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Sep/2016 21:36:25

    Countess Markievicz was a fascinating character. The Wikipedia site includes this photo and a famous quote by her - Dress suitably in short skirts and sitting boots, leave your jewels and gold wands in the bank, and buy a revolver. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Markievicz

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 18/Sep/2016 22:32:33

    Excellent stuff. Thanks all. Date and subject (most of them at least) seem pretty solid. And have updated the description to reflect. What do we think about location. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]'s own candidate on Gaol/Cusack Road looks pretty solid option for my own vote. Any other candidates for that ballot?