Mansion near Navan, Co Meath - is Boyne View House

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Where: Boyne View House, Athlumney, Navan, Co. Meath, Ireland

When: Unknown

A mansion (that was perhaps converted into a convent?) near Navan in the lush plains of County Meath. It looks like a white house - on the day when the new occupant of "The White House" may be decided. Good luck to our friends in the USA and may you get a President who will be a source of unity and goodwill!

In a near dictionary definition of "great minds think alike", guliolopez and sharon.corbet simultaneously identified (and Niall McAuley coorberated) that what we are looking at here is Boyne View House off Convent Road to the south of Navan. Built apparently around the 1820s, our interpid investigators have confirmed that the portico we see here was remodeled in recent decades - and the distinctive upper sunroom/orangery removed. We are delighted to hear however that the building itself still stands and seemingly retains much of its original form. The team further confirm that the Watkins family were in residence here for at least the first 2 or 3 decades of the 20th century, and may have been the householders when this Eason image was captured....


Photographer: Unknown

Collection: Eason Photographic Collection

Date: c.1900-1939

NLI Ref: EAS_3233

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    Andy Gant

    • 08/Nov/2016 10:14:30

    Great image.... seen in "B&W Images from around the World" www.flickr.com/groups/picsinbw/

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    guliolopez

    • 08/Nov/2016 10:17:52

    Possibly unrelated, but the next image in the Eason series (EAS_3234) has the same title, and is Sion House near Navan...

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    derangedlemur

    • 08/Nov/2016 10:46:25

    [https:[email protected]] There seems to be a whole series of mansions near navan.

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    beachcomberaustralia

    • 08/Nov/2016 10:58:16

    I like that conservatory perched on the porch.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Nov/2016 11:17:56

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Or is it an orangery?

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    guliolopez

    • 08/Nov/2016 11:38:44

    Indeed [https:[email protected]]. We had a similar "Mansion near Navan" almost exactly 12 months ago (though Sharon had that one pretty quickly). www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/22175913184/ Anyway, as mentioned, it's probably unrelated. ("3233" seems too stand-alone and doesn't share style elements with "3244". The roof cornicing in particular is totally different). Hence more "process of elimination" than anything else :) I tried to make out the coat of arms on the porch here, but it seemed a bit too "vague" to definitively describe and match it to something. No Meath people around today then?

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    guliolopez

    • 08/Nov/2016 12:43:32

    I might have it. Is it the house in the background of this related entry in the NIAH? If so, it seems like what we see here is the rear of Boyne View House(?) EDIT: Seeing the Bing Maps Birdseye view, I'm less convinced. But I guess there could have been works on that portico. Otherwise I can't reconcile the "orangery" we see in this image from 1997(?)...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 08/Nov/2016 12:44:28

    I think this might be Boyne View, Athlumney in a pre-renovated state. You can just about make out the porch and "orangery" in the picture of the summerhouse to the back.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 08/Nov/2016 12:45:38

    [https:[email protected]] By one minute!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Nov/2016 12:49:51

    [https:[email protected]] If is is Boyne View, it has been heavily altered: Bing Bird's Eye View of Boyne View. Yes, this pic from NIAH shows it being altered: www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/images/survey_specific/ful...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 08/Nov/2016 12:54:40

    [https:[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] The summerhouse view seems to be from 1997 based on the date on the photo, and the main entry does mention recent renovation.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Nov/2016 12:55:23

    The 25" map from 1907 does not show a bay window at left, maybe it ws altered after that, too?

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    guliolopez

    • 08/Nov/2016 12:59:24

    Haha! [https:[email protected]] and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley]. Seems like we all came to similar conclusions at around the same time :) I think the 1997 image (of the summerhouse) is pretty solid. And the NIAH description and images seem to confirm significant works and changes in the decades after that 1997 image. Which explains why the more recent images/aerial shots don't fully match. (Thanks to whoever was responsible for that 1997 NIAH survey and took/posted the "pre works" image. Otherwise this might have stumped for much longer....)

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    tomsyrk

    • 08/Nov/2016 13:04:52

    Great image.... seen in "B&W Images from around the World" www.flickr.com/groups/picsinbw/

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 08/Nov/2016 13:16:17

    Wow! Well done [https:[email protected]], [https:[email protected]] and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley]. Fantastic that we were able to identify this from just that one lonely NIAH image. And corroborate it with another showing the porch and "sunroom" being remodeled. Fantastic stuff! (And a great example of "great minds think alike :) The dictionary definition for the term should perhaps be updated with a link to this thread :) ) All that's left now is to figure out what the coat of arms that [https:[email protected]] mentioned are (or were). Hint hint :D

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    melystu

    • 08/Nov/2016 14:05:33

    Thanks to you, friends abroad! Fingers crossed here. Important houses like this sometimes seem so tiny.

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    DannyM8

    • 08/Nov/2016 14:10:45

    [https:[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] [https:[email protected]] Great job - well done.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 08/Nov/2016 16:31:54

    Here are the family that were living in Boyne View at least from 1908 to 1914. ETA: Make that 1920.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Nov/2016 17:29:14

    Charles Fitzgerald Watkins (were there two??) : A griffins head, erased Cavalry Officer, retd, per the census, so presumably this gentleman: Lieutenant, 2nd (Royal North British) Regiment of Dragoons (Scots Greys). A Lefanu connection?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Nov/2016 17:36:00

    Perhaps a remote one: 1904: On April 12th, at All Saints', Clooney, Londonderry, the Rev. JR. Babington, assisted by the Rev. Canon Adams, C. F. Watkins, late Scots Greys, of Badby House, Northants, to Ethel Le Fanu, eldest daughter of the late D. R. Babington of Londonderry

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Nov/2016 17:44:43

    Here is D.R. Babington, married Mary Charlotte Elizabeth Le Fanu

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 08/Nov/2016 23:27:56

    Thanks for taking up the challenge :) And the input on the crest and occupiers - have incorporated it into the updated description! While it was confirmed this house is now yellow (and not or no longer the white house we thought originally), we will still be thinking of our US-based cousins overnight. See everyone (hopefully) tomorrow, and good night [Evening Mary]