Is that a Ganlow or a Gondola I see before me?

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Those of you who are not "in the know" are wondering at that heading but the boat under the arch of the bridge is known as a "Ganlow" and allegedly they were based on the Gondola! The Shannon must have been at full tide to have the water so calm at that point of the river!

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Collection: Eblana Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1870-1890

NLI Ref: EB_1237

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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eblanaphotographcollection nationallibraryofireland ireland kingjohnscastle thomondbridge limerickcity shannonriver ganlow fishingboat arches hightide gandelow johnscastle limerick countylimerick shannon bridge treatystone

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 20/Dec/2018 11:04:00

    over/under.

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    Foxglove

    • 20/Dec/2018 11:32:25

    John is using the calm fine conditions to hang shirts out on the washing line. I remember this fort from a visit many years ago. very casual leg over for the cox in the gondola ...

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    Foxglove

    • 20/Dec/2018 13:42:42

    the NLI sleuths must be doing Xmas shopping, hopefully this pretty scene of Limerick won't go into the "less than five comments" folder !

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    Carol Maddock

    • 20/Dec/2018 14:04:17

    Hello, Morning Mary! If you're still taking questions although it's afternoon, I'm intrigued by the Ganlow. Is that a local name for it?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 20/Dec/2018 20:18:55

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I was rushing out to a doctors appointment and did not get a chance to look things up until now! I never saw the name written until today and though all the boat users I know called it a "ganlow" apparently the correct spelling is "Gandalow" There were two boats peculiar to the Limerick waters, the Gandalow and the "Angling Cot". The latter was a narrow flat bottomed boat with a sharp end at bow and stern or even front and back which was mainly used in the calmer waters of the Abbey River and above the tide level. The Ganlow (Gandalow) was a much stronger flat bottomed clinker built wooden boat always with a bottom covered in black pitch. When I was a lass there was always several of them on the beach in front of the Strand Barracks below the Curragower. The fishermen lived mainly in nearby Thomondgate which is on the Clare (near) side of the bridge in today's image. They used nets for their fishing and they would go down river on the ebb tide and return on the flowing tide with their catch. As often as not there was a lot of rowing done and it was a really hard grind. I found this in the stream one of our occasional contributors [https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie/31458356897/in/dateposted/]

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Dec/2018 20:36:33

    Gandelow !! - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandelow

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Dec/2018 20:40:44

    "In 2014, at the invitation of the mayor of Venice, four gandelows were taken there to take part in the annual Festa degli asparagi (Asparagus festival). This was also an opportunity to directly compare the gandelow with local Italian boats of a similar design (such as the 's'ciopon' - meaning 'big gun'- or a 'sandolo').[3] Indeed, when seen side by side,[4] there were many similarities in design and methods of construction which lent some support to the theory, voiced annecdotally in Ireland, that the names gandelow and gondola were somehow connected. However, no conclusive evidence has been found yet." [From wiki link above]

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Dec/2018 21:08:42

    The photographer, Mr Eblana, must have been very near the Treaty Stone - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Limerick Streetview - goo.gl/maps/fx4DhvwdXCz

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 20/Dec/2018 21:46:05

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] That is the new position of the Treaty Stone which is perhaps 15 to 20 yards further downriver from the old position which was just on the corner of the bridge and Clancy Strand. Given the angle I think that the shot may have been taken from there? There is a set of steps just beside the new location and it just might have been from the top of those????

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/Dec/2018 07:16:09

    Oh, I see the original position of the Treaty Stone in these Eblana photos (I think they are the same?) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000559884 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000561627

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    DannyM8

    • 21/Dec/2018 10:25:18

    I thought both halves of the Eblana collection were supposed to be identical (for speed of processing?) obviously this one does not fit the bill.

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 02/Jan/2019 09:00:10

    Amazing shot

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    Carol Maddock

    • 10/Jan/2019 10:56:38

    For any of you keen woodworkers out there, here's how To Build a Gandelow ...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 18/Feb/2019 11:18:31

    2019:John's Castle, Limerick 2019

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 18/Feb/2019 20:46:35

    Spot on [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] :) Did you bring examplars to get the alignment on these "just so" :)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 18/Feb/2019 23:21:05

    I have mobile interwebs on my portable telephone!