Group of seven : commissioned by Mrs. John Walsh, Mullinavat

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When: 21 May 1919

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It is difficult to get going on the first few Monday mornings of the new year, fear not, we have a lovely family portrait to warm the cockles of your heart.
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If you can leave the barbie and have a break from the oppressive sunshine you might take a minute to comment on this lovely family portrait.

With thanks especially today to Niall McAuley (initially) and sharon.corbet (latterly, especially for coming back to us when new records went online), it is all but confirmed that this is indeed the shopkeeping Walsh family of County Kilkenny. While I have mapped the image to the Poole Studio premises in Waterford (where it was undoubtedly taken), Niall McAuley recons they lived above their shop in Mullinavat. Having taken some time going through the civil records, sharon.corbet also suggests that those pictured include:
 Ellen Walsh (née Mullins b.~1876)
 John Walsh (b.~1872)
 Mary Walsh (b. 13 Nov 1910)
 Thomas Walsh (b. 8 Aug 1912)
 John Walsh (b. 23 Sep 1914)
 Richard Walsh (b. 12 Nov 1915)
 Ellen aka 'Baby' Walsh (b. after 1916)


Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: c. 21 May 1919

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 2839b

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Jan/2019 07:20:23

    Here they are in the 1911 census. John and Ellen Walsh, and at that time, their only child Mary.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Jan/2019 07:24:08

    Living in a shop in Mullinavat, 9 windows to the front.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Jan/2019 07:52:24

    Counting windows in the census (starting at the RIC barracks) and noting the very large 11 window pub at #10) I think the Walsh's shop was near where Centra is in this streetview

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jan/2019 07:56:01

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] The early bird!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Jan/2019 07:59:37

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Yuck! A worm!

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 07/Jan/2019 08:53:46

    Abraham Lincoln sans beard?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Jan/2019 09:26:12

    21 May 1919 was a Wednesday.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jan/2019 09:34:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidyphotography] Could be!!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jan/2019 09:34:45

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Glad you could join us from the barbie!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Jan/2019 09:59:22

    John is 47 here. Ellen is 44, and Mary is 8. The other children are younger. I was going to say we will find the names of the other children when the 1921 census is released in a few years time, but the War of Independence meant there was no 1921 census.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jan/2019 10:19:24

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Niall, this is interesting, I recall that there was hope for an early publication of the 1926 census back in 2012, unfortunately to no avail. I am also aware that a large group of Genealogists have been pushing for a 2022 release date. Normal publication would of course be 2027. There is some additional information over the 1911 census Age in years and months Town or townland of birth Orphanhood ie whether a child had lost one or both parents Name and address of employer If unemployed, normal profession/trade plus period of unemployment Total number of children born in present marriage (both men and women to answer) Number of living children and step children under 16 for all marriages (both men and women to answer) Present marriage duration (both men and women to answer) Size of the household's landholding, fny, in acres. see www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/1926-census.html The sooner the better. That said, I am not sure I would like any of my census returns to be made public before the promised 100 year prohibition!

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Jan/2019 13:30:30

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] I found the birth records for three of the other four children: Thomas Walsh born 8 Aug 1912 John Walsh born 23 Sep 1914 Richard Walsh born 12 Nov 1915 Plus Mary born 13 Nov 1910, and the parents wedding cert.. They were married 7 Feb 1910, and she was Ellen Mullins before the marriage. I haven't yet located the fourth kid.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Jan/2019 13:34:43

    Aha, I think the 100 year rule strikes again. The birth/marriage/death certs were put online in 2016, so there is nothing available for births after 1916. The littlest kid is probably younger than 2 1/2 so was born after 1916...

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    DannyM8

    • 07/Jan/2019 15:41:45

    At last a Dog, or at least I think the youngest child is holding a toy dog

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jan/2019 17:02:46

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Sharon, did you get the dates from the parish registers?

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    sam2cents

    • 07/Jan/2019 17:03:06

    Happy New year to all the detectives and librarians! This is indeed a lovely photo.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jan/2019 17:24:35

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/sam2cents] Thanks, and a happy New Year to you too.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Jan/2019 20:30:24

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] No, not the parish records - the civil records are online at Irish Genealogy. They have records of births, marriages and deaths from the 1860s to 1916/1941/1966.q

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Jan/2019 22:04:11

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Thanks, a very useful resource. I have included in the updated summary....

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    My Name In Lights

    • 12/Feb/2019 19:03:40

    I believe Walsh's shop to be the corner house on the other side of the street to where Centra is now. With railings and nine windows, directly opposite Brogan's shop in Google Street View.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Feb/2019 06:15:13

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/78260138@N08] That house in Streetview

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    sharon.corbet

    • 04/Jun/2019 06:00:16

    They’ve added the 1917/8 birth records online. "Baby" Walsh is therefore Ellen Walsh born 3rd February 1917.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Jun/2019 08:42:39

    Thanks a million, [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Thanks a million, Sharon.