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To end the week after some really lovely images, here we have one from our Stereo Pairs Collection of an unidentified valley. It has a cluster of houses nestling below the heavily wooded slopes of a hill. (Congratulations Lemur for yesterdays identification, I didn't hold out much hope given the lack of detail behind but as ever you made it look simple!)

And derangedlemur together with Niall McAuley was/were instrumental in identifying this one too. A task that was complicated no-end by the fact that the image was "mirrored". That was no significant deterent to the guy's identification of Woodenbridge, County Wicklow however....


Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton

Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence

Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1860-1883

NLI Ref: STP_3059

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 08:57:19

    Foxgloves!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:08:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Digitalis!!

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    abandoned railways

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:14:25

    The railway has a tight curve, and points, possibly a station or siding.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:14:35

    Glenmalure? 3D streetview - goo.gl/maps/3SLsf5D4k9w

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:22:09

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] No railways up there!

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    Foxglove

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:24:21

    yes I too see foxgloves

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    Carol Maddock

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:28:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove] I should hope so too! :)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 10:14:12

    It does look more Wicklow than anywhere out west. Those farm buildings in the middle distance look very prosperous indeed.

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 23/Nov/2018 10:59:47

    lots of green in that photo.

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:00:32

    I'll fetch my glasses and then we'll see

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:05:14

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] God bless your eyesight!!

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    abandoned railways

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:12:59

    The nearest inland line to Wicklow is the Tullow line, closed March 1947. Maybe its a flooded valley and the line was temporary for earth removal.

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:13:41

    The river is parallel to the road, and there's a siding on the bend in the railway. It could be Rathdrum, viewed from the southwest(ish). I'd have to find some corroboration though.

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:17:09

    No, I'm not getting it to match.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:19:05

    Woodenbridge, maybe? The "prosperous" buildings could be Woodenbridge Hotel. Flipped Left-Right?

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:24:18

    I couldn't get it to match Woodenbridge either. maybe from the west? Streetview won't go there, but the OSI looks possible if it's mirrored.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:28:34

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Yes, I am thinking Woodenbridge flipped.

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:31:41

    Could well be these two hills if we could just get the camera in the right place: goo.gl/maps/VdBi3fbxA7s

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:35:15

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Sure stick up the geohive link there and claim victory. You know I think it's too much faff. Edit: Meanwhile, I'll have a quick scan round Tipperary to make sure we're not making eejits of ourselves

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:41:54

    I think we're safe enough. These look like the same spot: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323362 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000326162

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:44:16

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland] I have Flipped the image, let me know if I need to revert to original please.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:45:12

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Megazoom makes me think that is the Woodenbridge Hotel. C shaped structure, characteristic tall bay windows on the far side, outbuildings in all the right places...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:48:12

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland] Your notes will be in the wrong place since I flipped the image.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:49:01

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Well done!

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    abandoned railways

    • 23/Nov/2018 11:55:09

    Definate, Woodenbridge Junction.

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    John Spooner

    • 23/Nov/2018 12:35:38

    The foxgloves and the foreground hedgerows stand out nicely in the anaglyph (red-blue glasses required)

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    abandoned railways

    • 23/Nov/2018 13:59:38

    From this junction the branch ends at Shillelagh, of the stick fame. Also home of Coolattin Park, home of William Thomas Spencer Wentworth-FitzWilliam, 6th Earl FitzWilliam, KG (12 October 1815 – 20 February 1902). He had his own personal waiting room at the station.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 23/Nov/2018 14:29:46

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland] He was not the only one to have a private waiting room - see [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/31177128671]

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    abandoned railways

    • 23/Nov/2018 17:14:23

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] When the sixth Earl passed the estate was leased, the new tenent inherited the waiting room with the demesne.

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 24/Nov/2018 03:01:28

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] edumacated guess.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 24/Nov/2018 06:01:37

    Here is the 25" map link.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 24/Nov/2018 06:16:54

    The only thing I see to try and date is the railway just beyond the bridge. The tracks near the points in today's photo do not exactly match the 25", where L_ROY_594 linked by Signor Lemur above does match. So we are earlier than the Lawrence.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 24/Nov/2018 06:34:05

    The Shillelagh branch opened in 1865. A reference here at railscot.co.uk (referenced by wikipedia) says: Originally exchange platform, buildings dated from 1876

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    Niall McAuley

    • 24/Nov/2018 06:39:07

    Eiretrains gives the 1865 date for Woodenbridge station, but says Aughrim (on the Shillelagh branch) is from 1876.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 24/Nov/2018 06:41:48

    Since those are the only two dates I see associated with the railway, I am going to guess that we are after 1865 and the opening of the junction but before 1876 when more work was done on stations etc.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 25/Nov/2018 19:21:13

    Apologies for the delayed update to this one. Have had a series of Bad Panda messages these last few days for some reason. I've since updated the map, tags and description - mainly to capture the "tag team" inputs of [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]!