W.D Hogan and friends at the Keany's house, Westbrook, Dundrum

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Where: Unknown

When: 01 January 1942

Another entry for our "Focus on our Photographers" Album. I am hopeful of finding names for quite a few of this jolly group. I wonder which of the two men is our Mr Hogan and who took the photo? I suppose if it is the man on the right; he could have used a delay timer and had time enough to get back in position?

The consensus is that this was most likely taken with a timer - accounting for the photographer's casual ("just got here") stance to the far right. Compared to the more carefully placed ("left a bit Mary") positioning of the other subjects. We've published many of Hogan's mainly Civil War era photographs on this stream before (and in the Witness to War exhibition), and are delighted to see him in more casual surroundings....

With thanks to our amazing contributors, we learned a lot about W.D. Hogan during the discussion on this image. We knew he was a commercial photographer, with a studio on Henry Street, Dublin from 1920-1935, and that he supplied photographs to the Freeman’s Journal and Cork Examiner. We've since learned more about his life before and after this period - well captured in the comments below. As provided by guliolopez, the obituary notice for William David Hogan (1885-1956) reads:

Death of Mr W. D. Hogan

Mr. William D. Hogan, late of Fair-view, Dublin, who was very widely known in Dublin in the nineteen-twenties, has died in London aged 71.

A native of Mallow, he popularised the phrase "Hogan for Radio" in Dublin, but besides his radio in-terests he was a keen photographer and made one of the last photo-graphs of Michael Collins before the Irish leader's tragic death. His radio business was in Henry St. from which many heard their first broad-casts, including Dublin's 2RN.

In London he developed an exten-sive business as a wedding photo-grapher in the Fulham Palace Road, but of late years he suffered serious sight trouble and for the past six months was gravely ill.

He is survived by his wife, sons, daughters, grandchildren, brother and sisters.


Photographer: W. D. Hogan?

Collection: Hogan Wilson Collection

Date: Circa 1942

NLI Ref.: HOG237

You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/May/2017 07:50:00

    Hogan was active in 1922, and this is 20 years later, so perhaps the gent on our right is more likely?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/May/2017 07:52:11

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Good point.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/May/2017 08:04:57

    Perhaps at Westbrook Road off the Dundrum Road?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/May/2017 08:14:42

    Keany is not a common name - the 1911 census shows only 3 people named Keany in County Dublin. Christopher Keany, 27, was an agricultural labourer, he and wife Alice are not a likely fit for this leafy suburb. I like Michael Keany, then 21, Electrical Engineer. He would be 52 in 1942.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/May/2017 08:18:58

    That Michael Keany is from Sligo - there are 67 Keanys in the 1911 census in Sligo.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/May/2017 08:32:41

    It looks like a family shot to me: Father and mother in the back row, her sister at left back, Granny and Granda Hogan on our right, 5 junior Keanys (Granny holding the youngest, of course), and two Aunts/Cousins making up the group. My father's folding Zeiss Ikon from this era had a little clockwork style delay timer allowing him to pose for selfies, but like this, always at the edge of the group.

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    beachcomberaustralia

    • 26/May/2017 08:57:00

    Same garden, see steps and gate; different occasion, see different clothes etc - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000219099

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/May/2017 09:05:38

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] The delay could be the reason the little boy in the middle has diverted his attention to his left?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/May/2017 09:09:19

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I think that confirms the older man as Mr Hogan - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Looks like your 1922 point is correct.

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    beachcomberaustralia

    • 26/May/2017 09:16:49

    There's not much online about Mr Hogan. Anyone know what W. D. stood for, his dates, address, shoe size, etc ?

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    j.coffey78

    • 26/May/2017 10:23:57

    Could that be a shutter release cable bottom center (or just a mark) would mean somebody in the middle clicked, more likely W.D. set the timer an ran back to sit down to the side of the group " hold on, we will take another"

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    Niall McAuley

    • 26/May/2017 11:55:33

    Revising my location: I think this semi-d on the Dundrum Road itself is called Westbrook. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia]'s other view shows a rather narrow garden - I think this matches. Today the back of that garden is onto another garden on Westbrook Road, but perhaps not in the 40s. (and I don't seen anywhere on Westbrook Road that matches this well).

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/May/2017 15:39:10

    REALLY LOUD KLAXON Reminder - We're having a celebratory NLI Flickr exhibition here in Dublin from this September until March 2018. We hope you'll want to be involved - nothing too hard for you to do, just fun. We've just a few short questions for you to answer so we know how many - big gooey virtual sticky bunswe should order!

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    guliolopez

    • 26/May/2017 23:34:45

    For a while I've been intrigued about how little we know about Hogan (compared to say the Msrs French/Lawrence/Poole or Mmes Dillon/Wiltshire). And so I went "looking for him" in the newspaper archives. Sometime last year. From what I could find (as we already knew thanks to other discussions and his NLI collection entry) he had a photography studio/shop at 52 and/or 56 Henry Street, Dublin. There's adverts all through the period from the 1920s through to 1934/1935 for the shop. Mainly offering photography services in the 1920s. But branching out then into wireless (and even television) appliances in the 1930s. The adverts stop in late-1934/early-1935. I went looking for later mentions (like an obituary), but couldn't find one. I might take another look. Sample adverts below: [email protected]/34527186510/

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    guliolopez

    • 27/May/2017 00:07:38

    Subdued death notice klaxon - So, I finally found a notice for W.D. Hogan. I probably had difficulty previously because he had moved to the UK. Where he continued his photography business. Before sadly suffering from failing sight. He passed away in 1956. I hadn't realised he was from Macroom - interesting given the Munster/Cork photos taken during the Civil War. Presumably the list of people he was "survived by" include at least a few of those pictured here. [email protected]/34751035442/

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    guliolopez

    • 27/May/2017 00:28:58

    Final update. Following the Macroom connection, I found pretty much the same death notice in the "Macroom and District Notes" section of the Southern Star from 12 May 1956. The only paper that had a little extra was the following entry from the Evening Herald of 1 May 1956. Which interestingly says Mallow (rather than Macroom).

    Death of Mr W. D. Hogan    Mr. William D. Hogan, late of Fair- view, Dublin, who was very widely known in Dublin in the nineteen- twenties, has died in London aged 71.    A native of Mallow, he popularised the phrase "Hogan for Radio" in Dublin, but besides his radio in- terests he was a keen photographer and made one of the last photo- graphs of Michael Collins before the Irish leader's tragic death. His radio business was in Henry St. from which many heard their first broad- casts, including Dublin's 2RN.    In London he developed an exten- sive business as a wedding photo- grapher in the Fulham Palace Road, but of late years he suffered serious sight trouble and for the past six months was gravely ill.    He is survived by his wife, sons, daughters, grandchildren, brother and sisters.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/May/2017 05:46:23

    [https:[email protected]] Good work young man.

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    beachcomberaustralia

    • 27/May/2017 08:02:17

    [https:[email protected]] Yes, that is a terrific help and of great interest. Wikipedia article too ?! He looks like a gentle man, happy with his family in this photo and in a screen cap from catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000219099 (ca. 1947 according to the catalogue) [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia/34879691326/]William D. Hogan, 1885 - 1956

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    DannyM8

    • 27/May/2017 09:24:36

    [https:[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I saw this piece on Elinor WIltshire from early this month in the IT. [https:[email protected]/34110493353/in/dateposted/]

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    jamica1

    • 27/May/2017 16:09:45

    An engaging photo

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    sharon.corbet

    • 28/May/2017 20:21:46

    [https:[email protected]] Thanks to your hard work, I was able to dig out a bit more about him - this is the record of birth, so he was William David, born in Quartertown, Mallow where his Dad was a Master Sergeant in the King's Royal Rifles. Part of the rest of his family were still in Mallow in 1901, but they had moved to the Fairviewish area by 1911. I can't find W.D. himself in either census - his father was fighting the Boers in 1901. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Regarding the Keanys - there are references in 60s/70s newspapers to various Keanys living in 'Westbrook', 5 Green Park, Orwell Road. Google satelliteview. That gate may have been between two parts of the garden rather than a back gate.

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    beachcomberaustralia

    • 28/May/2017 22:11:36

    William David's business on the Fulham Palace Road, London was called The London Daily Wedding Photo Service, telephone no. Putney 3113, and 'Hogan' signed this photo, see blurb - www.johnsbookshop.com/products/wedding-photograph-taken-i... Also from the same site www.johnsbookshop.com/products/wedding-photograph-taken-i...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/May/2017 23:15:37

    Thanks [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] for the extra info (and [https:[email protected]] again for starting us down this path in the first place). I've tweaked the description slightly to reflect full-name, key dates, etc. We love love love this stream, and very much look forward to raising a glass (or at least a sticky bun) in honour of William David at the Flickr exhibition opening!