Main Street North, Cahirciveen, Co. Kerry

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Where: 1 Church St, Cahersiveen, Co. Kerry, Ireland

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Where better to go on a Friday than the Kingdom of Kerry, Cahirciveen to be precise. We are right on the Wild Atlantic Way and I bet all of the people we see in this photo would be fascinated by the whole concept of it!

As today's commentators have noted, the same view today is almost identical - except for the cars of course - with most the buildings surviving. The StreetView car didn't pass on a market day however - as French may have done at the turn of the century (as hinted by the bustle in the town)....

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Though likely c.1902-1910 (owing to church and library)

NLI Ref: L_CAB_08433

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    DannyM8

    • 16/Jun/2017 07:15:16

    Warning - there are dogs in this photo.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Jun/2017 07:29:06

    ... and sheep! Streetview - goo.gl/maps/h1cUYykCjso

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    Foxglove

    • 16/Jun/2017 08:03:34

    and no bare foot children either

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Jun/2017 08:04:06

    Seems busy with lots of characterful folk. Was it market day?

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    DannyM8

    • 16/Jun/2017 08:28:18

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I would bet Market day.

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    DannyM8

    • 16/Jun/2017 08:34:30

    Most of the buildings are still existing, obviously built very well in the first place.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Jun/2017 09:00:01

    L_CAB_08432 is the Observatory out the road, aka Valentia observatory. This dates from 1892

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Jun/2017 09:35:03

    1904 humour...

    THE BETTER PART. Two Scottish tourists were travelling one day last August from Caherciveen to Kenmare, when, suddenly one looked very gloomy. "What's the matter?" asked his friend. '"Why, I hare lost the better part of my luggage." replied the other in a tone of disgust. "Was it stolen or did you leave it at the hotel?" "Worse than either - the cork came out !"
    From - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/148488571

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Jun/2017 09:49:09

    Re date - Mr French / Lawrence also took a photo 180 degrees behind from the same position, catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316327 of the new Carnegie Library (1910) and O'Connell Church (1902). The library looks like it is so new that there is no sign and the upper windows are ALL open to let the paint dry! Which might imply both photos are 1910, except that (geeky alert) - the style of the telephone poles does not match even though the number of insulators does. Thoughts ? ....

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 16/Jun/2017 20:53:32

    Thanks [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia], [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]], [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] and all. The StreetView is strikingly similar - even the tiny gable window survives. The argument for a c.1890 dating is pretty strong - and it's disappointing that we can't rely on the businesses/censuses to aid with that (as we sometimes do). Was there an embargo on signage in Cahirciveen I wonder?

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    guliolopez

    • 16/Jun/2017 20:59:48

    The StreetView car that came in June 2011 may have missed the market day. But the one that visited in March 2011 did not. It is a very different affair however (no hi-vis-vests, Celtic jerseys or wellies on sale in 1890).

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    sam2cents

    • 16/Jun/2017 21:57:11

    Amazing photo. For such an old pic it has a remarkable sense of immediacy and real life about it. All the more poignant.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Jun/2017 23:07:34

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] "c.1890 dating"?? - I reckon 1910 'cos of the Carnegie Library, but I am still concerned by the telephone poles and lines. Flickr and Streetview is sometimes amazing - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia/34963649200/]

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    dorameulman

    • 17/Jun/2017 17:26:53

    Wonderful vintage image. :-)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Jun/2017 18:50:00

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Unfortunately, I don't see anything dateable in this image. Nearby images suggest > 1892, and yours ~1910, but maybe French was here more than once, who knows?

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    O Mac

    • 17/Jun/2017 21:59:11

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Oh, he was there more than once alright. I would guess this 180° shot was taken the same market day and from the same elevated position. The trees outside the Coast Guard houses are much smaller than they are in that post 1910 library photo....... And being the self proclaimed resident expert on telephone and telegraph poles I can say, without question, that the poles and cross tree types in both market day photographs match. .... : ) L_CAB_08431 through to L_CAB_08437 are all of Cahirciveen with General view L_CAB_08435 showing the railway which opened on 12 September 1893.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 18/Jun/2017 07:24:07

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I like your "Fair Day" view which makes better sense out of the poles and wires. The presence of the O'Connell Church implies post 1902 (and before 1910) - see history here - www.cahersiveenparish.com/history-of-the-oconnell-memoria.... And Fair Day explains where the folk were going to at the far end of the street - [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/5263125171]

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 18/Jun/2017 07:32:21

    DashcamView!! from 1:49 - I don't think we've had one of those before - youtu.be/I08s-B23q4o?t=1m49s

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    O Mac

    • 18/Jun/2017 08:04:19

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Of course. I hadn't noticed the O'Connell Church in the photograph. well spotted. Post 1902 so.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 19/Jun/2017 23:14:43

    Thanks [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] (and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] for corroboration) - date tweaked...

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    Myrtle26

    • 21/Jun/2017 12:32:52

    The picture is of the East End, Cahersiveen, with the photographer facing almost due East. The Fair Field is to the right of the picture, north, and out of view. Notable buildings such as the Daniel O'Connell Memorial Church and the Carnegie Library are to the back of the photographer and out of view. Main Street begins near the Church and proceeds westwards. Cahersiveen was a bustling town - and what a great pity it didn't quite remain that way - but, at the same time, it may well have been a Fair Day. There is a fraction of the lower section of a pointed roof shown on the left, south, and that is the Court House where people are still led to this day though seldom sent forward to Houses of Correction. Many thanks to the National Library for such a wonderful picture which I hadn't seen before. The Lawrence number, 8433, and the clarity relative to the Fair Field picture, 3872, suggests a late date of, perhaps, 1915 or later. It also suggests an improvement in cameras and film.