A hive of activity - Main Street, Roscrea, Co. Tipperary

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Where: 2 R421, Townparks, Co. Tipperary, Ireland

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It's a long way from Tipperary South Riding and Cashel to Tipperary North Riding and Roscrea but only if you are trying to walk it! We started the week with a visit to Cashel of the Kings and here we have the Main Street of Roscrea of the Abbeys! This beautiful royal plate from Mr. French shows a scene of great activity, a public fountain and a mysterious building in the middle of the highway. I wonder what can help us to date the shot even if we cannot identify any of the donkeys?

While we couldn't identify the beasts of burden, the burgeoning businesses seemingly help date this image to before c.1901. The fantastic fountain still stands apparently - though moved to nearby Rosemary Square. The marvelous and mysterious market house however did not survive the 1920s - perhaps unsurprising given its placement in the "middle of the road" and the coming of the motor car by then.....


Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Definitely after c.1886 (central building). Possibly before c.1901 (businesses/census)

NLI Ref: L_ROY_03192

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    domenico milella

    • 27/Apr/2018 07:29:01

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album.

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    B-59

    • 27/Apr/2018 07:47:42

    Streetview OSI 25"

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    B-59

    • 27/Apr/2018 08:01:54

    www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057471670 says that the market house was built in 1886 and was demolished in the 1920s.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Apr/2018 08:02:02

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] More colourful perhaps but not a fraction of the charm of Mr. French's work!

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    B-59

    • 27/Apr/2018 08:08:18

    The fountain is now in Rosemary Square Streetview S. also www.roscreathroughtheages.org/jim-larkin-visit-to-roscrea...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 27/Apr/2018 08:09:01

    After 1886 (see [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/]'s note).

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 27/Apr/2018 08:19:37

    There are three (at least) other photos taken on the same day, judging by the temporary constant of an iron frame and horse apples to the right of the Market House - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000320260 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000332671 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000332672 (lower) Ed. And a reverse view showing Mr French's second floor window view - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000332673

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    Foxglove

    • 27/Apr/2018 09:04:54

    And as ever .... there is a dog

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    DannyM8

    • 27/Apr/2018 11:04:57

    I saw the Dog first...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Apr/2018 11:19:02

    The fountain was moved in 1925 per the NIAH

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Apr/2018 11:35:25

    catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000320260 aka L_ROY_07528 from the beachcomber shows that the bank to the left of todays shot is not there in its present form. The NIAH says it was purposebuilt in 1880. Clearly not.

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    John A. Coffey

    • 27/Apr/2018 11:43:26

    Wonder where Mr.French was when he took this fantastic photograph ?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Apr/2018 12:05:59

    Directory from 1889 includes Quinn, Rudd, Dooley, Cooke, Larkin, and in another of the beachcombers shots, Berry's hotel. It includes a Mrs. Meara, here I see Daniel O' Meara In one of those, I see T. Hunt, Saddlery, but in 1889 he is in Rosemary Square. No sign of xxxsasons, CG Sadlier, or Mulally.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Apr/2018 12:24:45

    From the 1901/11 census, I think we are between 1889 and 1901. T. Hunt has moved to Main Street by 1901 and Dunne is nearby. Charls George Sadlier is here too. The last Berry in 1901 has been adopted by Richard Brien at the hotel,

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Apr/2018 12:33:50

    Reverse view, some years later: April 27, 1961

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    Niall McAuley

    • 27/Apr/2018 14:22:36

    On the corner at right we see a Post Office. Today the Post Office is in this building on nearby Castle Street, dated c. 1900.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Apr/2018 23:49:28

    Thanks [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]], [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]], and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] for helping "bump up" the lower bounds of the range. And [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] for suggesting a revised upper bound. I've updated the date (and map, tags and description) to try and summarise the spectacular surmises....

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    domenico milella

    • 28/Apr/2018 07:45:46

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album - Nice Week End.

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    maorlando - God keeps me as I lean on Him!!

    • 28/Apr/2018 15:20:09

    Marvelous old capture that highlights change... luv it this way!!!

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 01/May/2018 07:00:06

    Very nice work