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Where: 138 Garron Road, Glenariff, Ballymena, United Kingdom

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Reading the catalogue description of this I thought that it would be like a "Cardall" image, an idealised bit of Paddywhackery but when I looked at the image my reaction was WOW! This is so different, almost Eastern European in its style and there are so many things to wonder at! Will we ever know where it was taken?

And, in a way that should no longer surprise me I guess, the "WOW" factored continued. When derangedlemur neatly identified this photo as being taken along the Garron Road, close to Glenariff in County Antrim.....


Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Perhaps c.1880s

NLI Ref: L_CAB_06137

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    abandoned railways

    • 22/Nov/2018 08:45:08

    Behind the photographer is a railway in a cutting. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323101

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 22/Nov/2018 09:00:07

    Great shot!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 22/Nov/2018 10:13:50

    John McCormack sings 'The Low Back'd Car' - youtu.be/rJMQ4ZpO7UQ (now it makes sense!)

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 22/Nov/2018 10:19:56

    Probably not very good at reversing?

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    John A. Coffey

    • 22/Nov/2018 12:15:06

    It reminds me of West Clare, and the creel for seaweed, which was used as fertilizer.

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 22/Nov/2018 12:44:37

    This is a stunning image for its time. There is special beauty in a hard life.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Nov/2018 13:01:41

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland] Could be a railway, but I think it is more likely a river. We see a recent flat bridge crossing left-right just above the horse's ears, consistent with a railway, but beyond it is a much older and ruined arched bridge, with two arches standing. That ruined bridge is too old to have been built for the railways.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 22/Nov/2018 13:13:29

    A similar "car" in the archive labelled as Glenshesk, Ballycastle

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    robinparkes

    • 22/Nov/2018 15:50:44

    it could be in the north for there is an Ulster pillar to the left of the photograph unless they are found elsewhere in the island. I would have thought that it's a bit rocky for Glenshesk.

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    Melinda * Young

    • 22/Nov/2018 15:52:23

    Marvelous basket, creel. I can't imagine building such a thing, having made one or two small simple baskets in my day.

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    shero6820

    • 22/Nov/2018 16:54:51

    Could the wheelless car be a "slipe" or sliding cart? The word is used in Scots and Ulster English.

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    derangedlemur

    • 22/Nov/2018 19:50:15

    This nearby one looks like Antrim, I reckon: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323099 Round Fair Head or Glenarrif, at a guess. Here, in fact: goo.gl/maps/eZsxd2zjRhR2

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    derangedlemur

    • 22/Nov/2018 19:58:02

    And here's our bridge goo.gl/maps/66wbDji6Npn

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    derangedlemur

    • 22/Nov/2018 19:58:02

    And here's our bridge goo.gl/maps/66wbDji6Npn

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    derangedlemur

    • 22/Nov/2018 19:58:50

    I can't see the pointy pillar, but this should be the house: goo.gl/maps/Mu7A43vaHpy

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    derangedlemur

    • 22/Nov/2018 20:10:12

    I'd put the OSI link only geohive's too much trouble.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 22/Nov/2018 20:50:33

    Well done The [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]!

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    robinparkes

    • 22/Nov/2018 23:00:14

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/shero6820] I would call it a slipe.

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    robinparkes

    • 22/Nov/2018 23:11:10

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I've been out and only seen the second photo now. Good for you. I was up the Garron Road for the hillclimb only a couple of months ago.

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 23/Nov/2018 04:16:01

    my first thought is that is was a travois. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travois

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 07:00:56

    Good Lemur - have a grape.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 23/Nov/2018 07:56:56

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/iliaal] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidyphotography] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/melystu] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/shero6820] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Real Photo Detective work today, thanks for all your effort and a special mention for [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I did not think we would identify the location!!! Brilliant.

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    DannyM8

    • 23/Nov/2018 08:04:52

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] In the reverse view photo there is a Dog under the Slipe.

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/Nov/2018 08:34:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I did say, "I wonder why Robin hasn't got it already", but I'm surprised you could hear me.

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    robinparkes

    • 23/Nov/2018 08:46:30

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] The bridge in the second photo was one of those ‘I should know that place’ moments.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:07:30

    Here is the geohive 6" link. The old bridge is still in use, and the new one sketched in with the note: New road in progress 1833

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:14:17

    On the 6" linked, I also see that the farm is one of one farms in Ardclinis in the 1830s. The 1911 census records 3 houses with a total of 8 residents, none of them younger than 34.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 23/Nov/2018 09:20:29

    1901 shows 16 residents in 5 houses. (House is perhaps a generous term, they are all 2 room buildings). It includes some young boys, the Kellys, but they are too young. By the time they are as old as in the picture, they should be in the 1911 census, and they aren't So we could be back nearer 1885, and the boys are the O'Neills, perhaps Charles, James and Edward.

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    shero6820

    • 23/Nov/2018 15:28:27

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] bingo!

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    robinparkes

    • 23/Nov/2018 19:35:20

    There is plaque dedicated to the men of the glens who built the Antrim Coast Road. It's located at the start of the road near Larne. www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/44201968920/in/datepos...