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Where: Cork, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1910

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It seems like a very long time since we posted a photo from the Fergus O'Connor collection and today we have a real beauty. A lovely coastal scene with a pleasure boat in the foreground and a trawler nearby, moored to a pier with boxes of fish ready for transport to the market. Where is this idyllic scene and what can we find out about that enormous building in the background?

Labelled as "Pier, with a row of moored boats, in an unknown location" in the catalogue, it is firmly suggested that this is Castletownbere, off Bantry Bay, in County Cork. The date range has been refined also....


Photographer: Fergus O’Connor

Collection: Fergus O’Connor Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1900-1920. Likely after c.1908 (vessel)

NLI Ref: OCO 210

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    sharon.corbet

    • 04/Apr/2019 07:56:08

    The boat is the Ovoca built in 1908 in Arklow, later fishing out of Balbriggan.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2019 08:13:26

    Scenery looks pretty rugged - further West than Arklow, I'd say. I note a coastguard station with flagstaff.

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 04/Apr/2019 08:13:30

    Taken at Castletownbere I'd say - This part of the harbour is now filled in, but that's the Workhouse in the background and the profile of the hill matches the modern Streetview www.google.ie/maps/@51.6508038,-9.9102059,3a,75y,80.01h,8...

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 04/Apr/2019 08:18:59

    The Coastguard station in the photo wasn't there when the 25" Ordnance Survey map was created, so that may provide some dating evidence. The NIAH suggest it was built circa 1910, so this photo must be later. www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 04/Apr/2019 08:37:25

    There's some more info on the Ovoca at the bottom of the page here, as well as some photos of it later in Balbriggan harbour.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 04/Apr/2019 08:47:30

    The Ovoca featured on a stamp commemorating marine history in 1992, as she is thought to be "the first designed fishing vessel in the British Island fitted out with a motor."

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 04/Apr/2019 08:50:32

    Same boy-in-white collar and rowing boat seen here - was he a relative of Mr O'Connor? - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298827 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298862 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298826 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298845

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    Foxglove

    • 04/Apr/2019 10:57:46

    Yes, there has been a gap, but there is a barefoot child though I think proximity to the sea rather than poverty is the reason :-) nicely composed with foreground and beyond creating a pleasant scene

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2019 11:12:44

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Did Fergus O'Connor actually take these photos? I thought he was a publisher rather than a photographer... In 1911 he is listed as a picture publisher, while in 1901 he is a Commercial Clerk at a bakery.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 04/Apr/2019 21:02:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I have no idea if Mr O'Connor was the photographer. Perhaps someone at Library Towers knows. Re date: This one of a horse on a punt (as opposed to a punt on a horse!) taken from the right, seems to show the Ovoca, or at least the masts, on the left of the jetty. Also shows the scaffolding near the church as seen in another photo. Are all the photos at the same time? See extensive comments about the date - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7419470426/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7465386310/in/photolist-cnG4g5

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 04/Apr/2019 21:06:27

    From [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet]'s link above -

    The Ovoca was an unusual boat In 1905 Mr. Michael Tyrrell, son of John Tyrrell and Sons, Arklow, designed and built a model for a motor fishing boat which, he claimed, could be worked profitably in face of steam drifter competition. This vessel (fig. 293) was 50 ft. (15.2 m.) overall length, 14 ft. (4.3 m.) beam and 6 ft. (1.8 m.) draft. She was to be propelled by a 25 h.p. Danish ‘Dan’ engine of the hot-bulb type, having two cylinders and a controllable pitch propeller. The winch was belt-driven by the main engine. A version of the cruiser stern was adopted and was a considerable departure from the sailing type, being much more suitable for power propulsion. In 1907 the Department of Agriculture had an experimental boat built to this design and she was named Ovoca. The vessel was an immediate success, and is believed to be the first specially designed fishing vessel in the British Isles. She was intended mainly for drift-net fishing and to do some seine and long line fishing. After her first year it was found that the large sail area was not required so both masts were shortened and the bowsprit and mizzen boom removed.
    From - www.balbrigganharbour.com/html/photos2.html (foot of page)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2019 23:40:37

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Not a real expert, but I believe the pole sticking out the front is a bowsprit, and the pole attached at right angles to the rear mast is the mizzen boom, both clearly still attached in this shot. So this picture is of the Ovoca during her first year - 1907-1908. There are pictures without the bowsprit and with shorter masts at Sharon's link.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 05/Apr/2019 08:35:47

    The workhouse interesting history - www.workhouses.org.uk/Castletownbere/

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    philfluther

    • 08/Apr/2019 19:07:24

    Leprechaun on toadstool doll on . . . .

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 09/Apr/2019 22:25:34

    Thanks all! Map and description and tags all duly (if belatedly) updated :)