"Two unidentified Franciscan friars walking alongside a church carrying an umbrella" is Fathers Bibby and O'Connor

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Where: Dublin, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1920

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This week we are visiting "The Republican Photograph Collection". I believe this is our second visit. I feel sure you will be able to get the location, I am hopeful you will discover the names of the two friars. Would it be too much to hope for anything more?

With thanks initially to our own Carol Maddock and corroberation from sharon.corbet and BeachcomberAustralia it is confirmed that this image is of Capuchin Father's Albert Bibby and Dominic O'Connor.

With the help of additional material from the RTÉ Stills Library and the ever-useful NLA Trove Archive it seems that this image is likely associated to the arrest of both men in the winter of 1920 - during the Irish War of Independence. Probably dating from after their release it is likely captured at the Capuchin friary and church on Church Street in Dublin....


Photographers: Unknown

Collection: Republican Photograph Collection

Date: c.1920

NLI Ref: NPA RPH17

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Aug/2018 06:17:33

    This was our First visit to the collection https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/37513777630

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    Carol Maddock

    • 07/Aug/2018 08:10:49

    Can't believe I know something and I'm first! That's Albert Bibby on the left. Capuchin.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Aug/2018 08:51:46

    Reminds me of an unrepeatable-on-here old joke ...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Aug/2018 08:53:44

    And Father Dominic O'Connor on the right. It's a Cashman photo, apparently.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 07/Aug/2018 09:09:27

    I think they are standing at the gate of the Capuchin Friary in Dublin. Streetview.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Aug/2018 09:20:19

    The lady in the middle distance walking away is wearing a hat which looks like it might be 1910+? Looks earlier than the proposed 1920 to me...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Aug/2018 09:23:03

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Well done! That RTE site says c. 1920, and has this... The two priests were exiled to California by the Capuchin Order, for supporting the Anti-Treaty side in the early 1920s. Father Albert died in Santa Inez, California, February 1925 and Father Dominic died there in 1935. Their remains were reburied in the Capuchin Cemetery, Rochestown, Cork, June 1958.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Aug/2018 09:29:02

    Read All About It! ... trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/167025464?searchTerm=c...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 07/Aug/2018 09:29:36

    Bibby was at the Church st. monastery from the early 1900s. O'Connor was based in Cork - In 1920 O'Connor was in London, and then :Soon after his return to Ireland, Fr, Dominic and Fr. Albert were arrested at the Friary in Church Street. So 1920 does sound good...

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    domenico milella

    • 07/Aug/2018 10:04:55

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album.

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    John A. Coffey

    • 07/Aug/2018 10:35:36

    Fr.Albert Bibby was born in Muine Bheag, Co.Carlow in 1877 and brought up in Kilkenny City. He was ordained in 1902 and spent his early life in Church St, Dublin. In May 1916 he was one of the Capuchin priests who atttended the executions. His account of Seán Heuston`s execution was published in the 1942 Capuchin Annual. He died in California (Feb`14th 1925) where he had been exiled. ..... from Jim Maher “On June 13, 1958, a day of brilliant sunshine, a plane bearing the remains of both Father Albert and Father Dominic landed at Shannon Airport. Through the city of Limerick, on to Buttevant and Mallow, and from there to Cork City, the funeral moved through streets thronged with prayerful crowds. At the outskirts of Cork City, the Lord Mayor of Cork and the Corporation dressed in ceremonial robes, were joined by the Lord Mayor of Dublin, and the Mayors of Kilkenny and Limerick, accorded the remains a civic reception. After Mass in Cork the funeral made its short journey to Rochestown. The friary of Rochestown is on the side of a steep, narrow glen. On the surrounding rise the people gathered to pay their last respects. The remains were gently lowered into the welcoming Irish soil. The people began to disperse, but they halted again. Across the sloping hill came the sombre notes of a bugle, as if from nowhere, sounding the last post across the partially covered graves. As it changed from sadness to the réveillé, a thrush in a big sycamore burst forth in song as if to say “Fáilte romhaibh abhaile, Albert agus Dominic. “

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    WildBill#

    • 07/Aug/2018 12:31:46

    Beautiful

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    marianne muegenburg cothern

    • 07/Aug/2018 16:56:16

    Thanks for sharing everyone. I love the Internet.

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    guliolopez

    • 07/Aug/2018 19:35:23

    Here is an incredible image of of Fr O'Connor's arrest after the Battle of the Four Courts (Jun/Jul 1922)

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    guliolopez

    • 07/Aug/2018 19:45:46

    According to the Glasnevin Trust, Bibby is in the O'Donovan Rossa funeral photo (just behind the lady over Pearse's right shoulder): www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/26203288753/

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 07/Aug/2018 22:25:53

    Flickr is sometimes almost amazing! In 2012 via https://www.flickr.com/photos/jenniferboyer/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/jenniferboyer/7170067249/

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    Seuss.

    • 08/Aug/2018 02:19:41

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/1916relatives/25429824034/ Fr. Albert

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    Inverarra

    • 08/Aug/2018 16:02:42

    When priests had “The Power “. Everybody else sheltering from a downpour and not a drop falling on the two holy men. Today, they would have to use those two umbrellas.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 08/Aug/2018 23:26:10

    Thanks again all! I updated the map, tags, description and details yesterday evening. But omitted to thank everyone for their fantastic inputs. In particular https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] for the initial steer, https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet for the corroberation and location, and https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley, https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia, https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected], and https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] for the ever-useful additional context and colour. Much appreciated!