The Raftice Family of Mullinavat

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When: 25 August 1908

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Good morning, Flickroonies. I'm hoping that Raftice is a sufficiently unusual name that we can winkle out some background on this family group, posed here in their absolutest Sunday Bestest.

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: 25 August 1908

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 1845b

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Sep/2019 08:23:45

    25 August 1908 was a Tuesday ... Is the child on the left holding a toy DOG?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 08:55:48

    32 Raftices in the 1911 census, but none entered as Mullinavat.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 08:59:00

    The only ones with small children are the Raftices of Grogan, Ballincrea, about 10 km away. Bridget, Maggie and Stasia in 1911.... But they would have been aged 5, 1 and zero in 1908, and there were only 3, no sibs in 1911.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 09:13:17

    Part of Mullinavat is in Garrandarragh townland, which has two Raftices in 1911, Mary Anne (67), and in another household, James Cannon, 71. Given as Mullinavat Town in 1901. Perhaps this is Mary Anne with a collection of grandchildren?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Sep/2019 09:15:59

    It could be a Mrs. Raftice with her daughter's kids - with the grandkids having a different surname. For example Catherine Raftice in Ballylusky, which is only a few km from Mullinavat.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 09:43:56

    It's 1908, and the children are aged between 2 and 9, so born from say 1898 to 1906. This area seems to be covered by registrations in Waterford, and there are exactly 4 children who fit: Margaret Raftice and 3 Aylwards, mothers name Raftice. Record Search at Irish Genealogy Ages are wrong though. Widening to 1896 to 1907 is better - 6 children, and the little lad could be James Aylward, July 1907, and the girls 3 of Margaret or Anastasia Raftice, Johanna and Mary Aylward.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 09:55:05

    Patrick Raftice married Anastasia Mullally in 1898. John Aylward married Margaret Raftice in 1901.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 10:08:05

    Hmm, Patrick Raftice's father is given as Robert, Margaret's as Nicholas. The kids would not be first cousins...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 10:19:41

    The Aylwards in Arundel Square in 1911 have added Michael and Ellen, younger than James. Johanna is recorded as Josephine.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Sep/2019 10:34:57

    I see that the original title in the archive is "Mrs. Raftice, Mullinavat, Co. Kilkenny, group of five", it does not say they are all Rafticesseses or from Mullinavat, just herself.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Sep/2019 10:40:31

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I think Margaret Raftice at Irish Genealogy is Maggie Raftice from Grogan, Ballincrea. Her sister Bridget doesn't seem to be in the birth records.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 16/Sep/2019 12:50:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Apologies, Niall, didn't mean to mislead with the Mullinavat!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 16/Sep/2019 12:54:10

    P.S. found out at a staff meeting this morning that we'll be having a new image viewer on the catalogue here at Library Towers. Don't know what to do about the patent pending on MegaZoomable – it's still pending.

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    Foxglove

    • 16/Sep/2019 12:56:01

    beachcomber_australia .... unfortunately it is a horse / donkey and not a dog. also, very rarely do we see cats ....

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    DannyM8

    • 16/Sep/2019 14:00:56

    Not a Dog!

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Sep/2019 14:21:27

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove So I'm not the only one who has noticed the unacceptable bias against cats!

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Sep/2019 20:07:34

    At least some Raftices have been recorded as Raftis instead, widening the field a bit further. I still can’t see a likely set of kids, though. (I would link, but I seem to have broken both the Census and Irish Genealogy sites...)

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Sep/2019 21:11:07

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Eagerly anticipating the new MegaZoom2. Seven years since it first appeared - time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana! (Groucho)https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/8453130686/in/photolist-ciCJ37-eVSiPL-jAhx62-9fCkXU-eLHasv-fHT1LE-eqCF8G-fKVMdY-2bXj66A-23Gwbx7-212mnPH-RuFZLM-QUX2rL-9PhMSm-dSYvfw https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove I now look like an ass...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 16/Sep/2019 21:17:37

    There are several 'Similar Items' which mention Raftice - might narrow the field? Buckstown, Ballyluskey, Mr Richd, and a wedding group ... catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=raftice&type=...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 17/Sep/2019 08:04:01

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Usa culpa. We are not over-endowed with cats in our photographs. I will bring it up at the next board meeting. In the meantime...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Sep/2019 11:41:24

    Caution, Cat Crossing!

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    Foxglove

    • 19/Sep/2019 08:45:23

    clearly an early example of the urbanisation of the rarely seen Irish Forest Cat, Felix hibernoborealis

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    sharon.corbet

    • 19/Sep/2019 14:26:54

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Thank you for the fantastic feline photos! PS Whoever was responsible for the title of this photo probably should have gone to Specsavers...

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    Hannahs Lens

    • 02/Dec/2019 00:40:19

    Very Interesting: I was born I. Kilkenny many moons ago; grew up in Donegal; my Godmothers name was Aylward