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While everybody else stands still at Mr. French’s request, the lone dog looks disapprovingly at the carter who puts a “ghost” into the photograph! A fine, busy scene on Mill Street, Ennis with lots of people, mostly men and boys, about. The scene has changed somewhat but for the most part remains the same today!

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1890-1900

NLI Ref: L_ROY_04486

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    DannyM8

    • 01/Dec/2020 08:53:32

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxglove I saw it FIRST!

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    Bernard Healy

    • 01/Dec/2020 09:20:08

    Now Parnell Street, I think: Streetview: goo.gl/maps/dZkpBw2aC71oowip6

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    Foxglove

    • 01/Dec/2020 09:32:18

    ah it's the daily dog race and I was caught in the traps

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    Bernard Healy

    • 01/Dec/2020 10:32:24

    There's a distinct lack of the kinds of signs & products that usually give us clues re: dating. The name of the street doesn't help - the 1901 Census uses 'Mill Street', but the late 1890s 25" map calls it Parnell Street, even though Parnell Street is a re-naming of Mill Street. The only sign I can make out is a damaged sign for Prescotts Dye Works Dublin. Does that help with dating?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 01/Dec/2020 10:43:36

    RIC man with a tall helmet suggests before 1900 and forage caps.

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    cargeofg

    • 01/Dec/2020 11:01:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Not a lot of signs in this plate. Whereas if you look at L_Roy_11347 and 11350 and 04488 they are awash with signs but suspect some of those plates are later. I also spotted H.Websters shop where my father started his working life in the grocery trade.

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 11:58:27

    I think we'll be dating this one from the census and the almanac

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 12:11:24

    Well, either they've all boycotted the census, or it's nearer the start of the suggested date range. (Or it's mislabelled and it's some completely different town).

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 12:16:05

    Maybe the parents' generation of this family: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Ennis_No_...

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 12:18:25

    Interestingly , all the merchants are called J.

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 12:27:18

    The policeman's hat could be later: irishconstabulary.com/ric-constable-s-helmet-and-barracks...

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    cargeofg

    • 01/Dec/2020 12:41:25

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] In the reverse view sign that reads in this plate as J.Dick is R&J Dick.

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    Peter Denton

    • 01/Dec/2020 12:44:43

    The arrival of the photographer was clearly a big event. The blur in the centre of the street is presumably a horse and cart on the move. Oh, and the policeman's walrus moustache is magnificent!

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 01/Dec/2020 12:51:34

    well some windows are open, so it was at least a nice spring day, based on the clothing, either spring or fall

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    suckindeesel

    • 01/Dec/2020 13:02:32

    It has to be Mill/Parnell St., look at the "curve" in the building on left, the modern Volcano pub, both the same

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 13:05:23

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy What 25" are you using? The OSI has it labelled as Mill Street. Is there another publicly available 25" that we can get our hands on?

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    suckindeesel

    • 01/Dec/2020 13:15:31

    It's High St., looking west towards Mill/Parnell St. Might explain lack of hits in census. Try High St. instead.

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 13:17:46

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I was just looking at Ennis Urban, and got no hits.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 01/Dec/2020 13:21:26

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Apologies - I had the wrong layer on the OSI map view. It's Parnell Street on what is descibed as Historic 6" Last Edition B&W & I have no idea of the dating on that. You're correct about it being Mill Street on the 25".

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    Bernard Healy

    • 01/Dec/2020 13:32:31

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] That was a big boot manufacturer back in the day: letslookagain.com/2015/11/greenhead-belts-r-j-dick/

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    derangedlemur

    • 01/Dec/2020 14:20:26

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Dagnammit! I thought you had a cool new map we could play with. the later 6" is mostly from the 40s.

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    cargeofg

    • 01/Dec/2020 16:06:12

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Reading through your linked article and struck by mention of gutta percha as soles. My though was the transatlantic underwater telegraph cable laid by Brunel and The Great Eastern and it does get mentioned as an underwater cable insulation in a later paragraph. Interesting history of the company.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 01/Dec/2020 16:15:57

    There is a 60 something looking mercantile gent at left in the doorway of J Cullinan, and in the census of 1901, James Cullinan of High Street, a bootmaker, is 71. This is perhaps 1890-95?

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    Inverarra

    • 01/Dec/2020 16:31:14

    Stunning photo.

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    Ger Cos

    • 01/Dec/2020 16:45:53

    The names over the doors may have changed but its still recognisable as upper Parnell Street (Mill St when this photo was taken)

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    suckindeesel

    • 01/Dec/2020 17:54:56

    Or "Old Mill St" Plenty of hits from the 1901, rather than the 1911

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 01/Dec/2020 19:58:20

    Eee! There be trouble at t' Mill Street!

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    suckindeesel

    • 01/Dec/2020 21:58:40

    J. Cotter is John Cotter according to small licensing sign visible. The only Cotter in the 1901 is 84 year old widow Jane Cotter, mother-in-law to publican James O'Keeffe www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Ennis_No_... Presumably, Jane was the wife of the John Cotter mentioned in the licensing notice. Can't find him in any census, but this could be his death record, aged 65 in 1870. Given that the liquor license is renewed yearly, at least nowadays, is it plausible that photo dates to 1870 or before?

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    suckindeesel

    • 01/Dec/2020 22:04:26

    John Cotter death civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civi... Anybody else being plagued by an invasion of killer pandas and other glitches?

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    suckindeesel

    • 02/Dec/2020 00:02:21

    On reflection 1870 feels far too early. Not as late as 1914, street renamed 1915. Mr. Cullinan looks late sixties to me also, so I'd guess pre 1900, the Irish Historic Towns Atlas (IHTA), no. 25, Ennis, pg 13 says c. 1900, but that's a catch all type of date. s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/assets.ria.ie/ihta/ihta-digita...

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    Flickr

    • 02/Dec/2020 04:15:27

    Congrats on Explore! ⭐ December 1, 2020

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    incognito7nyc

    • 02/Dec/2020 08:14:16

    ✨🌟★❤✯♥✨ Very beautiful ✨♥✯❤★🌟✨

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    cargeofg

    • 02/Dec/2020 09:42:27

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]. Yes could not get other plates for Ennis to link over yesterday.

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    maczeug2

    • 02/Dec/2020 10:00:55

     Outstanding ;-)

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    s0340248

    • 02/Dec/2020 14:56:34

    Glückwunsch zu Explore ! ! !

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    le cabri

    • 02/Dec/2020 15:21:15

    Great catch

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Dec/2020 16:33:34

    Hello, Evening Mary here. Any more bids for a date on this one? https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Do you still think just before 1900?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 02/Dec/2020 19:48:29

    ❤🌟💕😍1895-ish!!😍💕🌟❤

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    Niall McAuley

    • 03/Dec/2020 05:55:01

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Yes, 1890-1900 based on Mr. Cullinan.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Dec/2020 09:09:33

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Thank you, Mr McAuley.