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When: 16 October 1907

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A group of three, two ladies with fine hats on board. And a gentleman sitting down while the ladies stand? Miss Nolan of Brownswood, Carrick-on-Suir was the lady who made the commission, but is she in the image, and what was the occasion?

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Looks as if this one will have to simmer on the back burner for a while. No Brownswood Nolans in either the 1901 or 1911 censuseses. And Evening Mary could find nothing in any online newspapers. We shall sit back (if we can get a chance to sit down with these young feller-me-lads hogging all the seating) and await developments...

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford

Date: ca. Wednesday, 16 October 1907

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 1717a

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Feb/2021 09:13:12

    16 October 1907 was a Wednesday ...

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    cargeofg

    • 12/Feb/2021 09:31:01

    Carpet looks in good condition. Is that a hole or a stray leaf under the chair? On closer inspection it may have had a bit editing/scratches.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 12/Feb/2021 10:03:43

    Why isn't the gentleman standing and one or both of the ladies sitting?

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    cargeofg

    • 12/Feb/2021 10:13:18

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I though that a bit odd. Older lady I would have expected to be seated. If Miss Nolan is the younger lady, is the man her brother as I do not see an engagement ring on her right hand ?

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    DannyM8

    • 12/Feb/2021 10:59:49

    The ladies only had one pair of shoes between them, that's why they are standing on one foot each.

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    suckindeesel

    • 12/Feb/2021 11:10:26

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Seems to have been the convention, You can see the same arrangement in many old time photos. Here's one from my own family album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50934673793/in/dateposted/

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    cargeofg

    • 12/Feb/2021 11:20:52

    Opps Cant see the young lady's right hand it is in her pocket !!

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    cargeofg

    • 12/Feb/2021 11:24:34

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Strange as good manners would have prevailed ie opening a door for a lady etc etc. Maybe it is to do with position of males within society at that time.

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    derangedlemur

    • 12/Feb/2021 12:03:58

    Might just be the height differential and the effect on composition.

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    suckindeesel

    • 12/Feb/2021 13:51:56

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Yes, probably a matter of composition. The taller male would have towered over the sitting female.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 12/Feb/2021 15:24:44

    No Nolans in the townland of Brownswood in either the 1901 or 1911 census.

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    O Mac

    • 12/Feb/2021 19:42:37

    I suspect the pot has been so placed to cover a hole in the carpet.

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    suckindeesel

    • 12/Feb/2021 21:09:02

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Assuming it's the Brownswood in Co Waterford, but no hits for any Nolan in any Brownswood.

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 13/Feb/2021 00:42:55

    Look at there shoes . . . they were walking on muddy streets. Wife and mother? Or, possibly mother-in-law . . . Noses seem to be the same on both women. www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Other show is in the shadow of the long dress for younger woman and the left foot of the older woman is behind the pot. www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I do not think they are brother and sister . . . Their noses, ears, lips, and chins look different.

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    suckindeesel

    • 14/Feb/2021 13:11:41

    No rings on man, so not her husband. Could they be brother, sister and mother? Alternatively, could be mother,and son from Brownswood and his fiancée? Would have expected her to be flashing the ring if that was the case. Another unresolved historical mystery