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Where: Connaught, County Roscommon, Ireland

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Across the Shannon today to nearby Roscommon, and yet another Castle, but this time Castle Street. A Royal plate gives wonderful detail, with children and adults out and about but no real traffic on the street. A few horse apples are spread out which are very good for the roses!

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1865 1901-1914 (Edwardian postbox)

NLI Ref: L_ROY_10306

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 13/May/2021 07:26:14

    Streetview: www.google.ie/maps/@53.6316972,-8.1905243,3a,75y,25.76h,8...

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 07:47:43

    Henry McCourt is aged 4 and mistranscribed in 1901. Maybe the grandson? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Rosco... He's already a grocer aged 35 in 1911.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 07:51:19

    Joseph O'Neill still family grocering away in 1901.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 07:57:31

    Curious that McCourt isn't in the 1901 census. It says he's from Roscommon. Must have been out of the country.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 08:04:22

    John Jones is succeeded by Jane by 1901. Joneses are gone entirely by 1911.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 08:36:14

    Who's the agent for Fallon? It looks like Ivcocke, which is not a name I am familiar with. Edit: The internet says it's a real name, though the census says not in Roscommon, it's not.

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    O Mac

    • 13/May/2021 08:42:25

    Fallon's on the go from 1895.

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    John Spooner

    • 13/May/2021 09:38:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] An advert in the Roscommon Messenger on Saturday 16 December 1905 reveals that the sole agents for Fallon & Co's, Blackie's, and Brown and Nolans publications and School Requisites was M. I. M'Court's

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/May/2021 09:43:49

    Zero hits in the civil records for Ivcocke in Ireland (births, marriages, deaths) Hancock maybe? Yes, It could be McCourt

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 13/May/2021 10:07:07

    Remarkable lack of telephone poles and electric lights ... Mr French / Lawrence was in Roscommon in June 1903 for the dedication of the new church. See comments - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7689744950/

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 10:30:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley M. I. M'Court's fits. Also not in the census.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/May/2021 10:35:36

    Here is the record of Henry McCourt, grocer, dying aged 80 in 1910. Looks like M.J. McCourt, son, was present.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/May/2021 10:42:31

    I see a record the death of a possible John Jones in 1893 (aged 63) and Jane Jones in 1909 aged 69.

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    suckindeesel

    • 13/May/2021 10:44:04

    Still on gas street lighting

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/May/2021 10:47:33

    I see this Edwardian pillar box in the distance on the left, so after 1901 (don't mind the c.1905 date, that is just the middle of the 1901-1910 possible range).

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 13:57:52

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Are you sure? The one above looks like it has a smaller and flatter cap. Did pillar boxes wear out and get replaced, or is it plausible that the top was replaced?

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 14:17:37

    It might just be the angle, but even in streetview the top looks pointier.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/May/2021 14:28:53

    Mind you, I can't find any examples of flat topped pillar boxes that don't look substantially different.

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    cargeofg

    • 13/May/2021 14:34:19

    W&R Jacob Biscuits packing case (see note on photo) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%27s

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    suckindeesel

    • 13/May/2021 16:12:39

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51175863377/in/dateposted/ Definitely M. I. McCourt over the door The inscription on the arch above looks like "? & Resraurant". Any leads to a restaurant?

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    suckindeesel

    • 13/May/2021 16:31:38

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Still on gas street lighting, the town wasn't connected to the grid until 1930. There were several private generating companies in the county, but no ref to them supplying the town itself.

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    suckindeesel

    • 13/May/2021 22:58:07

    Above shop beyond "Fallons" McGrath Bros. General Drapers Not in census