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The Clonbrocks were out foreign again and took this interesting image while there. At first sight I thought the train was a case of a "Pushme Pullyou" as described in Dr. Doolittle but I was mistaken. The catalogue title makes note of the pump to the right and there is just so much to see in this lovely shot. Wouldn't it be lovely to see it colourised?
Photographers: Dillon Family
Contributors: Luke Gerald Dillon, Augusta Caroline Dillon
Collection: Clonbrock Photographic Collection
Date: 7 August 1901
NLI Ref: CLON682
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Photographers: Dillon Family
Contributors: Luke Gerald Dillon, Augusta Caroline Dillon
Collection: Clonbrock Photographic Collection
Date: 7 August 1901
NLI Ref: CLON682
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Rory_Sherlock
'WAB' on the carriage probably represents 'Wengernalpbahn' (i.e. Wengernalp Railway): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wengernalp_Railway This locomotive (now with the Brienz Rothorn Bahn but originally built for the Wengernalpbahn) looks very like the steam engine in the photo: flic.kr/p/dW7WJz
Rory_Sherlock
Wengen? Streetview: www.google.com/maps/@46.6041409,7.9246459,3a,48.9y,0.68h,...
BeachcomberAustralia
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Good work! 7 August 1901 was a Wednesday . . .
BeachcomberAustralia
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/] A quickie colourization with a disappointing rusty engine. Somebody clever might be able to do better ... [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia/51206156826/in/dateposted/] via playback.fm/colorize-photo
cargeofg
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] You are on the ball this morning. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wengernalp_Railway The wooden water trough is a piece of workmanship in itself.
Swordscookie
it seems that the"pump" is a constantly running spout? Probably coming from a nearby spring or stream? No doubt frozen during winter.
Niall McAuley
The modern trains are not as cute: goo.gl/maps/eg4EvymwhV7MtPye8
cargeofg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie Yes I would go along with that but pipe could be insulated in the wooden housing with straw. Trough is most likely for cows but do not see any "evidence" of them passing. In the wintertime they would be housed in the lower /ground level byre under the living area of the farmhouse.
BeachcomberAustralia
Flickr is sometimes funicularly fun! In 2018 via Kevin Oliver https://www.flickr.com/photos/kmoliver/43118993052/
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] There are some colorised postcards available here along with a history (in German) of the section of the line between Wengen and Lauterbrunnen - not this section, as this is between Wengen station and Kleine Scheidegg.
sharon.corbet
(I'm also grumbling a bit, as I had a trip to Switzerland booked for June last year, including taking this very train...)
BeachcomberAustralia
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Thanks - that confirms the engine was green and the carriage red as in Rory Sherlock's link above. My colourization bad! [aside] - Fascinating Driver's Eye View 115 years later - I think this section is at about 13:40. Grab a cuppa and enjoy what the Dillons saw - youtu.be/cfSsP706mR4
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Nice Job.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trained_4_life/8488726797/ via Richard Pryke It is, of course, a rack and pinion, no regular loco could tackle that incline. You can see the 'rack' between the rails. This engaged with the 'pinion' or cog of the loco. Popular in very mountainous regions.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Progress!
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The history I linked to above explains that this isn't actually the steep bit - the incline was originally much bigger from Wengen down to Lauterbrunnen (up to 25% whereas from Wengen onwards it was "only" 18%). This was a particular problem as it meant that you could only have 1 passenger car on the steeper section, as the steam engines weren't powerful enough for 2. After Wengen, however, 2 were possible. In the end, they rerouted the Lauterbrunnen-Wengen part in 1910, so that it was also max. 18% - there's a map showing both routes in the article, and you can actually see both routes on Google Maps too. The original route was apparently used mostly for freight trains in the meantime, until they decided to close it down in 2009, as maintenance cost was higher than the benefit. (Wengen is car-free and has no roadd access so the railway is the main transport link.)
suckindeesel
This is a funicular, i.e. cable operated https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51206940478/in/dateposted/ The Monongahela Incline in Pittsburg, I think it's the last one left there and it brought the steel workers back to their housing on top of Coal Hill.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] looks near the spot, judging from the mountain in the background
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I see just one car and a baggage car at front. Seems to match the streetview of Wengen from Rory Sherlock. So, is it pre 1910? Regular trains would struggle with even a 10% grade, hence the rack and pinion arrangement. Probable necessary to keep the loco at that end to ensure a download on the rack.
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ It’s dated 7th August 1901....? But anyway, as I said, this is the part above Wengen station, where they could actually use 2 cars, which they sometimes did (attaching a second at Wengen).
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Can't see the wood for the trees today!
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Got similar results from my 'colouriser' app. We don't really know what the train colours were at that time, after all the other 'greens' are rendered correctly. At least one of those old postcards shows a brown engine and a red car.
Richard_FM
A kneeling cow locomotive.
BeachcomberAustralia
https://www.flickr.com/photos/richard16378 I like that! Next question - was the train going up or down? From the smoke, I think down ...
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/richard16378 Well done everyone, very entertaining. Thank you.
fulvue
The loco's configuration is such so as to keep the boiler and its water level as horizontal as possible whilst working the steep inclines. Here is a view of some rack and pinion track, for interest. www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3335396215/in/album-72...
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Very interesting and thank you for the additional information!
fulvue
www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/ My pleasure!
sharon.corbet
120 years later (well, less 4 days) - the train looks a bit different now, and is barely visible behind the new buildings: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51355271923/in/dateposted-public/
BeachcomberAustralia
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 I bet you had fun doing that.
sharon.corbet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Wandering around in the Swiss Alps is always fun! As are cog railways...
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Envy........