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What a photograph, there is so much activity. A grand view of O'Connell Bridge, Street and Monument. There are enough cars to keep the petrol heads going for a week. There is some unfamiliar street furniture and signs which may help with dating. I look forward to reading your findings.

Photographer: Unknown

Collection: Eason Photographic Collection

Date: between 1900-1939 1927 - 1929

NLI Ref: EAS_1740

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    derangedlemur

    • 02/Sep/2021 06:45:00

    Where's this - Navan again?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 07:03:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I was thinking Nobber?

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    cargeofg

    • 02/Sep/2021 07:09:36

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] No No ! It is rush hour in Kinnegad at 12.08.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 07:37:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] We can agree on the 12.08.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 02/Sep/2021 07:54:39

    Name all those cars ...

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    Foxglove

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:04:07

    I think the car on bottom right is an Austin Tourer 12 ...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:04:07

    After all the 1916 destruction and the reconstruction after it.

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    O Mac

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:10:51

    "Her-didles or Press, Her-didles or Press, Her-didles or Press, Her-didles or Press, Her-didles or Press, Her-didles or Press"

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:13:08

    I see a reg. plate Z519: Z 1 to Z 9999 (Mar 1927 – Sep 1938); Also ZI-1621: ZI 1 to ZI 9999 (Mar 1927 – May 1933); So after Mar 1927. If we assume steady sales for the 6 years, ZI 1621 is after Mar 1928.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:24:05

    We are before the swan necked streelights are replaced in 1936 with concrete ones.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:35:12

    Eas 1739 next door is also very nearby - much later in the day by the shadows, but quite possibly the same day by the flags visible. That one is definitely 1928.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:37:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I remember that sound.

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    O Mac

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:41:41

    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Never to be heard again... like " press button A" , " stop the lighst" etc.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:41:52

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Date 1927 to 1936, likely 1928? surely this must also be 1928 EDIT 2 or maybe not.

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    O Mac

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:45:15

    Ive a feeling it's before 1932 as the tram tracks on the left were moved nearer the center of the bridge to accommodate a Eucharistic Congress alter thing that was built on the far footpath.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 08:55:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Have a look at the window boxes over Kapp & Peterson in Eas 1739 and this one - not the same day or season!

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:02:20

    The tram on the left has an advert for Fruitfield on the side. Here's an advert from Evening Herald (Dublin) - Saturday 19 June 1926. Lucky Tommy! Freuitfiel

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:07:43

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Still Available today the following from the Edward Dullard (Kilkenny) stream. https://www.flickr.com/photos/edwarddullardphotography/30486845483

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:12:05

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Good spot on the window boxes!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:26:08

    We are before this 1932, there is a third tram track where the cars are parked in todays: Straight On or Left or Right to Westmoreland Street Only [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I see that you mentioned this too!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:30:20

    Would the statue of William Smith O'Brien be visible from here? It was moved in 1929 ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/9083856174/ Edit - Unless the photographer climbed up the statue ?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:36:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Not visible, too close to the photographer who might have been in the window to the left or right of FIRE.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:44:48

    Googlesphere from the Blood Donor Clinic (!) - goo.gl/maps/bYtVJd8yxoMuhZTx5

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 02/Sep/2021 09:58:06

    💡I can see William Smith O'Brien's head just to the left of the near lamp (see note). So photo is before 1929!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 10:06:37

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia well done. So 1927 to 1929. https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley

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    an poc

    • 02/Sep/2021 10:23:44

    A couple of notices in the upstairs windows of Kapp & Peterson: "TO LET / JONES" and "TO LET / ALBERT MacARTHUR". Perhaps newspapers might help?

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Sep/2021 10:27:04

    What a wonderful photograph for using Megazoom to its greatest extent and just scrolling around the details. Half an hour of which activity led me to wonder what's going on here. Asking for the time or for directions, or has some traffic law been violated? Either way, the driver of ID-152 seems to be taking an interest Dublin On the subject of asking for directions, Freeman's Journal had this to say about the sad state of Dublin street signs on Friday 13th 1922, giving this junction as an example

    But the unobservant citizen is woefully mistaken. They are not there—or rather sometimes they are, sometimes they're not. Familiar with the centre of the city. but except his own residential district, pleasantly ignorant, as he boasts of either interior in exterior suburbs, he needs no guidance in the business quarters, and loses his presence of mind when asked in Lower O'Connell street by some helpless tourist, "Please tell me which is the nearest way to Sackville street.'' Recomposing himself, he manages to say with some effort at an agreeability of manner and accent, "Oh, you are in it. Sackville street was the old name. It is now as will see by the name O'Connell street," and he points to Hopkins and Hopkins first-floor windows. But alas, there is no name plate. and in the same moment he becomes painfully conscious of the fact that you search the front of Kapp and Petersons on the opposite side, in vain for a thoroughfare label.
    My own tactic as a hapless tourist bona fide traveller in Dublin was to use glasses which desaturated my vision and rendered everything in B&W, and then use my familiarity with the works of French/Lawrence, Hogan, Eason and the rest of them to navigate to my destination. Edit: I see there's a bilingual sign for Bachelors Walk above Kapp and Peterson's shopfront, but nothing to indicate Sackville O'Connell Street.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 02/Sep/2021 10:52:41

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner I thought everyone knew that you don't navigate Dublin by street names - you use pubs instead. (For added confusion, better to use the *old* name for pubs that were renamed up to 10 years ago.)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 10:56:48

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Very good.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 10:57:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I saw them I will have a look in the IT, the same signs are there in Eas 1739 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 11:01:41

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I see your note re Ice Cream, the last time we were in O'Connell street, I read that Mr Cafolla had a fleet of Ice Cream vendors on the road, before having a restaurant(s).

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    an poc

    • 02/Sep/2021 11:38:37

    What time of year do you think it is? Looks like a fine, slightly hazy spring day to me. Can anyone identify the flowers in Kapp & Peterson's window boxes?

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Sep/2021 11:44:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I'll bear that in mind, but as someone whose great grandfather wrote a song performed at a concert of the Bandon branch of the Irish Women's Temperance Union is supposed to gain such a knowledge, I'm not sure. '... and the lullaby, "Sleep Little One, Sleep" (Rutland Spooner), were much admired' (Cork Constitution - Friday 22 March 1895) https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I remember being thrown somewhat by the post office not being a smouldering ruin and the absence of the Gunpowder Office sign.

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    an poc

    • 02/Sep/2021 11:44:15

    Note the man holding the large "CIVILITY" sign just to the left of the 12 tram, pointing towards the premises on the corner.

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    suckindeesel

    • 02/Sep/2021 12:26:17

    The No. 220 tram, route 8 to Dalkey, was a real survivor. Built 1911 in Spa Rd., it made it all the way to CIE times and final closure of the system. May look up a few more later.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 12:48:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner There is no sign because everyone knows its O'Connell Street!! ;-)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 12:49:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I have a feeling that we came across 220 before?

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Sep/2021 12:53:05

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] There was a Dublin bookmakers named "CIVILITY". The address given in their advert in the Sport (Dublin) on Saturday 13 October 1928 was "105-106 (S) Grafton St (Corner of Suffolk St)". You could "Post, wire, 'phone or bring your bets" to them. There was also a branch office at 55 Lower O'Connell St for callers only.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 12:55:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] "Civility" was noted by https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley in this photo, but there are no further details. https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/6800498913

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Sep/2021 13:03:04

    The standard template for advertising Civility's odds for coming races in the Sport does not mention the O'Connell St branch office on 18th August 1928 27th October 1928, but it is there on 23rd February 1929. Given that it's a summer's day, I imagine it's a case of them taking their time to update their standard advert template. Edit: 55 Lower O'Connell St is in a advert on 1st October 1927 ("cash bets only") so its absence in 1928 is irrelevant. 55 Lower Sackville St was also Chancellor's address.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 13:03:33

    Next door in the catalog, EAS_1741 is a later year - the third tramline has replaced parking, and look, there is a named film in the Grand Central cinema - the Phantom of Paris! 1931 per the IMDb. The To Let signs in the former Gunpowder Office are gone by then.

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Sep/2021 13:36:54

    W Cullen, who may or may not be the Wm F Cullen whose truck is visible next to the no 16 tram, advertised "good Fur Stoles from 2s 6d each, good sets Cheap Rugs, Bags, and other miscellaneous articles" in Freeman's Journal on Saturday 26 November 1910. The address given is indistinct, but possibly 53 or 33 Lower O'Connell ST.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 13:37:28

    1742 was on this stream before, and dated May/June 1932: Straight On or Left or Right to Westmoreland Street Only

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 13:42:49

    So it looks as is if the Eason catalogue has just collected shots of O'Connell Bridge/street from multiple years, and put them together, rather than being any sort of a dated sequence.

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Sep/2021 13:47:10

    In 1917 W Cullen, 53 Lower O'Connell St, was an agent for railway lost property and was advertising 500 good silk umbrellas at half a crown each. (Freeman's Journal - Tuesday 06 March 1917). That explains the "Other miscellaneous articles" in 1910.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Sep/2021 14:15:56

    Any ideas for what the Ladies pointer sign on the lampost means?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 02/Sep/2021 14:32:10

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I would normally assume a toilet, but I can't figure out where it's pointing.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 14:46:28

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner good find on Civility. https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Were there public toilets on Burgh Quay?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 02/Sep/2021 14:53:10

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Now that I actually read the article a second time instead of just looking at the photo, yes - at least there was a ladies lavatory there in 1919 (the only ones in Dublin at the time) but it was closed. I assume that it was reopened. Twitter has a photo of the 1960s version.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 02/Sep/2021 14:56:15

    I see an advert from CIVILITY in the Irish Times of 24th March 1928 with odds for the Grand National to be run on the 30th March, The eventual winner was Tipperary Tim at a starting price of 100/1. In the ante post list you could have been ON at 300/1, very civil indeed.

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 02/Sep/2021 21:12:28

    I'm supporting 1928 onwards. The bi-lingual green Street Signs with the "Bastion" borders did not appear until then. (Tenders were accepted in 1927) Untitled-1_24.psd

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 02/Sep/2021 21:23:47

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] 1927---Tender-awarded-to-winell-Birmingham

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    suckindeesel

    • 02/Sep/2021 21:43:52

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Hasn't been an 'Irish' product for a long time, now made in the U.K. and Portugal. www.independent.ie/irish-news/shoppers-misled-into-buying...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 02/Sep/2021 22:09:37

    I can't find an exact date for the removal of the Smith O'Brien statue; it seems to have been "a few weeks ago" per this (originally) 20/11/1929 Trove article, so likely October 1929 ? The interesting article bangs on about all the new "picture theatres", talk of getting rid of Nelson, etc etc. - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/171665038?searchTerm=%... " ... I remember, as a lad, making for the Smith O'Brien statue one Saturday night to read the newly-carved Gaelic inscription, with its rendering of O'Brien's offence into ard-di'lseacht d'Eirinn. As I strove to make out the Irish, a trampish figure, that might have rollocked out of a picture by Jack B. Yeats, rolled up and asked me what the words meant. I translated them, and said that they were Irish. "Nonsense," said he; "that's Latin. I know it by them quare letthers." ...

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    suckindeesel

    • 03/Sep/2021 00:00:37

    The glazed canopy over the entrance to the Grand Central Cinema on right was badly damaged during a bomb attack in April 1923 and later removed.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Sep/2021 04:37:15

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Great work.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Sep/2021 04:40:42

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] We have to be 1927 or later by virtue of the Car registrations, a new canopy must have been installed?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Sep/2021 04:45:12

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] OMG as they say, next you will be telling us Jacobs biscuits are not baked in Bishop Street!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 03/Sep/2021 04:58:43

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Interesting! The toilets are not on the 25", but here is something there on the 1930s Cassini. Practically on O'Connell bridge, just out of shot to the right, as in that 1963 image. In this 1950s Morgan aerial shot, if you megazoom in far enough, you can just make out two buildings on Burgh Quay as in that 60s Twitter image. Must be the least photographed building in Dublin's history!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 03/Sep/2021 06:46:59

    There was a Ladies' loo on Burgh Quay which closed in 1919; it might have re-opened? - www.rte.ie/centuryireland/index.php/articles/closure-of-w... [Aside] And more from the Irish Times (2019) - where to 'go' in Dublin - "... My vote, though, if you’re caught short in the city centre, goes to the National Library on Kildare Street, home to the loveliest ladies’ room in the capital. (Mind you, you’ll have to hop up and down first for the privilege while they make you up your laminated reader’s ticket.) Light, spacious, old and glassy, and offering a seating area replete with dignified old sofa and armchairs, it’s a survivor from bygone days of gentle reposes and well-powdered noses." See - www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/where-are-the-be...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Sep/2021 06:59:21

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Still are! https://www.flickr.com/photos/lizinitaly/6089049916

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    sharon.corbet

    • 03/Sep/2021 08:44:42

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Yeah, the maps were the first place I checked, and I have to admit I'm not impressed with the priorities of the OSI guys. Public toilets are just as important as weighing machines. (The fact that the pissoir on Eden Quay got a mention on the Cassini just adds insult to injury.) [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Here's another ode to the NLI toilets featuring more pictures.

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    isa13

    • 25/Sep/2021 09:06:07

    What a great image of O'Connell Bridge and surroundings ! Amazing traffic too !