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What a lovely photo of Strand Road, Sandymount. We get a great view of the tram and the lady in white who seems to be having a job holding on to her hat, I thought they had hat pins back then? The pram (buggy) on the left looks very modern and not unlike the models on sale today.
Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: between 1890-1910
NLI Ref: L_ROY_10955
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Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: between 1890-1910
NLI Ref: L_ROY_10955
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Niall McAuley
Streetview
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Tram opened and electrified in March 1901.
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Patrick Fleming of Sandymount Green:
Niall McAuley
Other cart is Horan Victuallers, here is a Michael Horan, butcher.
suckindeesel
"The Merrion Promenade Pier and Baths Co built Sandymount swimming baths in 1883. The baths measured approximately 40 by 40 metres, with a 75-metre pier added in 1884. The pier featured a bandstand halfway along it and summer concerts were regularly held there for many years. By 1920, the pier had deteriorated so much that it had to be demolished. The concrete baths section, which resembles a small harbour, remains." per Wiki The Martello was used as a tram office at this time.
Niall McAuley
Next door in the catalogue is L_ROY_10956, same tram 196 at the Martello Tower.
Niall McAuley
There is a series of shots near Sandymount, and then a couple of the Parnell Monument, like L_ROY_10968, which was unveiled in October 1911 (by John Redmond), then a shot of the 1906 Boer War memorial in Armagh. L_ROY_10970 is 1912-14! ...and just before this sequence, I think L_ROY_10954 has postcards of King George 5th in a shop window in Irishtown, so after May 1910.
John Spooner
"Nelson's Pillar to Fleming's Door". The licensee of Fleming's was P. S. Fleming (or it was in 1920 when he transferred the licence) so I assume it's the same as the P. S. Fleming with the "high-class Grocery and Provision Business" (1911 advert & census))
(Evening Herald (Dublin) - Saturday 03 August 1895)
John Spooner
In 1913 Patrick Fleming applied for a 7-day licence, no doubt to provide refreshments to bonafide Sunday travellers from other parts of Dublin taking advantage of the tram service. Bonafide travellers advert on tram (to Blackrock in this case) near the other end of the line
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Flickr is sometimes amazing. Circa 1950 via https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4879333048/
Foxglove
in Glasgow at this period, ladies were discouraged ( ie; not allowed!) from using the upper deck ..... seen as unbecoming if people saw more than an ankle ;-) . 40 years ago on my first bus trip in Dundee I saw not only a No Smoking sign but a No Spitting.
suckindeesel
The panels surrounding the upper deck were referred to as 'modesty panels' even into bus building days. There was also a screen behind the driver preventing any peeking up the stairs.
suckindeesel
https://flic.kr/p/2mXWBEq Note the crescent route symbol on the tram. This one is for Sandymount, later becoming the No.3 route. These symbols were in use between 1903 and 1918, until replaced by numbers. One theory suggests that their use was due to the high level of illiteracy at the time. No. 196 was an earlier horse drawn Milne trailer car, No.21, converted to electric in 1899. The Martello was terminus of this route and used as an office.
suckindeesel
"Am I walking into eternity along Sandymount strand?" -Stephen Dedalus
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
Looking back over the photographer's shoulder in Streetview, we have two surviving (upcycled) Tram Poles . goo.gl/maps/M8afEyF7up5q4dQbA
suckindeesel
Good spot re the poles. There are other remnants nearby: the old tramsheds and a short piece of tramtrack across the footpath in Gilford Rd, just down the road on the right.
John Spooner
As per the 1895 advert for Fleming's, the fare from Nelson's Pillar to Sandymount was 2d. It was still 2d until 1920 when it increased to 3d, much to the outrage of the Dublin press - after all, it was a 50% increase.
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The sequence of Sandymount photos all (except one) include a prominent tram. I wonder if it was a commission for the tramway company? Most photos seem to be carefully posed, as if for an advert. And none have the customary title script for a postcard. There are a couple of copies of this image in the "Dublin Trams Collection", with horse apples less noticeable (see how they have been edited) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000747370 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000747372 The sequence - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000041161 - this photo catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316275 - the tower catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316276 - reverse-ish view with moving tram catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316277 - no tram, St John's church. (compare with earlier STP - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000564048 ) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316278 - ladies waiting for tram catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316279 - the Green catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000040950 - tram without crescent signs, No. 49 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000316280 - unavailable catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000041052 - Irishtown Road It looks like Mr French had a Grand Day Out on the Sandymount tramway; the wind in his hair on the top deck, the fresh sea air, a spot of beachcombing perhaps ... ... wish I was there!
suckindeesel
That 2d of 1885 would equal about €1.40 today. I think a 1d 'workmans' fare was later introduced between certain hours.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia It does look idyllic back then, but the reality may have been different. The Strand itself is something else. It featured in several episodes of Ulysses, one of which led to its banning in the US for obscenity. As Stephen Dedalus muses “Am I walking into eternity along Sandymount strand?” At low tide it appears to go out nearly to the horizon. The incoming tide has caught many people out over the years.
Dr. Ilia
Amazing capture!