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Where: Leinster, County Kilkenny, Ireland

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Our Catalogue gives us the following for this photo "Carrickashock (Rockhall) where bodies were removed after battle & showing man holding sickle used in conflict" It is not one of the best photos we have ever had on this stream, but it does raise many questions which is the reason we are here!

Photographer: Irish Tourism Association Photographer

Collection: Irish Tourism Association Photographic Collection

Date: 1944

NLI Ref: NPA ITA 1270 (Box VI)

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 30/Sep/2022 07:45:16

    The Carrickshock Incident of 1831 ? The Carrickshock incident, Carrickshock massacre, or battle of Carrickshock[1] was a confrontation between the Irish Constabulary and local Catholic tenant farmers near Carrickshock, near Hugginstown, County Kilkenny on 14 December 1831, during the Tithe War in Ireland.[2] Seventeen were killed: 14 of a party attempting to collect tithes and three of the crowd of locals who confronted them. The incident was unusual among massacres in the Tithe War in that the majority of casualties were supporters rather than opponents of tithes. ... See - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrickshock_incident

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    suckindeesel

    • 30/Sep/2022 07:52:01

    maps.app.goo.gl/7or3Rnq53yuuUhXM7?g_st=im

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 30/Sep/2022 07:52:29

    Strikes me that the fellow might be one of these guys - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/28146111745/

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    O Mac

    • 30/Sep/2022 07:52:59

    We visited this "incident" before. flic.kr/p/JTbbqH

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 30/Sep/2022 08:06:16

    Hmm - Rockhall according to Google Maps ?? - goo.gl/maps/Wd2R68oftX3CEPi17

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    suckindeesel

    • 30/Sep/2022 08:46:10

    All caused by a church tax

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    Deirge (Del)

    • 30/Sep/2022 10:03:28

    The corragated steel on outbuildings and stone walls would still be typical of my memories of the 1960s. So I'm inclined to believe the photograph date of 1944. Now I'd assume at guess the man holding the is about 60, lets say he was born between 1880 and 1890. That's 50 to 60 years after the incident. So. I'd assume the sickle is a family heirloom that passed down a few generations and was noted as being associated with the incident. So the questions would be does the sickle still exist or can the man holding it be identified or can the house be identified? Beachcomber had identified Rockhall but I'm not sure that precise is correct (I'm sorry if I'm mistaken): I'm getting www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Kyleva,+Rockhall,+Co.+Kilkenn... which is (52.44420,-7.2382). And now the eircodes R95 XR66 & R95 TX21 might be significant. Does the NLI send them a print of the postcard to ask about the sickle? Do they know about it? Orienteering slightly off map I note an interesting pond at (52.4442,-7.24139), well at least if you like ducks!

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    Deirge (Del)

    • 30/Sep/2022 10:04:18

    Will the census records help?

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    O Mac

    • 30/Sep/2022 11:38:22

    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq Longshot... The only man that it could be in that 1925 memoriam group photo is the bloke on far right middle row with the baggy cap. His name is listed as a T Dwyer. There was a Thomas Dwyer living in Tuitestown who was 21 on 1911 census. If him he was 36 in 1925 and 54 in todays photo. Both men...baggy cap and todays capman look around those ages. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Aughav... Tuitestown parish is just up the road from Carrigshock.

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    RETRO STU

    • 04/Oct/2022 11:31:45

    Don't look like a sickle he's holding, more like some implement for digging out potatoes. Still, it could be a lethal weapon either way!