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Mr. Poole was commissioned to take this image of a very fine memorial in Ballygunner Cemetery. A Celtic Cross with delicate tracery, a fine example of the stonemasons art remembering the late William Kelly and Catherine of 75 The Quay, Waterford.

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: Between 1901 - 1954

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3562

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Nov/2022 08:55:29

    I see there's a Johnstown in Waterford as per the "commissioned by" details , but a Michael Bergin of Fancy View, Johnstown, Kilkenny was looking for a girl for Drapery, Grocery etc in the situations vacant columns of the Wicklow People on Saturday 20 February 1904. Edit: But there were also Bergins in Johnstown, Waterford (J Burgin of Johnstown nominated for the Waterford Seanad - Waterford Standard Saturday 22 January 1938) so my theory that the "commissioned by" bit had the wrong Johnstown is probably hogwash. As you were.

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Nov/2022 09:01:48

    The Waterford John Bergin of 80 Johnstown was a monumental sculptor (a snippet in the news that his son had been promoted to Captain in the Army, reported in the Waterford Standard - Saturday 20 March 1943) So I guess he commissioned the photo to show off his stonemasonry skills to prospective clients without them having to visit the cemetery.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 02/Nov/2022 09:06:59

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner There is a name carved bottom right of plinth. "W. Sausage"?? or something ...

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    John Spooner

    • 02/Nov/2022 09:24:29

    Waterford Stonemasons in 1903 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Group_of_work...

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    O Mac

    • 02/Nov/2022 10:08:33

    There are still Kellys at 75 Quay Waterford. maps.app.goo.gl/XLHdaxF3XB99nXa3A William Kelly was Waterford's Lord Mayor in 1883

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 10:58:23

    In the background is a memorial to Thomas Cheevers, looks like he died on the 5th May in 1920 aged 77. And here in the civil records, Thomas Cheevers, died 11th May 1920 aged 76, So the date is 1920 or later.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:02:55

    Searching the 1901 census for Stone Mason in Waterford Urban, I see only one likely name for [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia]'s Sausage name: William Somers, 36.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:07:01

    So why would John Bergin be ordering a picture of a monument by William Somers 15+ years after it was made? Bergin married Ellen Holohan in 1910, no obvious in-law connection.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:17:16

    Paging back in the catalogue, the neighbouring pic is dated 25th August 1928. Back another 2 and we are at 1st September 1928. And paging forward, a shot of another Ballygunner monument, POOLEWP 3564, also tagged Mr. Bergin, is dated 7th September 1928. And then we find Mr. Brennans shop at 3565, dated 27th September 1928: Back to Brennan's of Barronstrand Street

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    O Mac

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:18:46

    i squint that it's "W Bergin and Sons" written on bottom of the plinth. Appearently Bergin was chipping away at the old block up to quite recently. Business became Bergin and Kearns Monumental Works... now it's just Kearnssss..

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:23:57

    There was a Margaret Bergin, wife of Francis, who died in Jan 1928. Perhaps John Bergin was preparing to make a similar monument?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:33:01

    Here is an interesting one: in POOLEWP 2956 we see 3 markers signed Bergin which are still at his workshop. One has a date of November 1920. None are in the full celtic style of today's.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:39:51

    He (or rather they) used that Minards design in 2956 previously for John Flynn and his clan, as in POOLEWP 2757 , marked Bergin Bros, dated earliest 1912.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:42:39

    The memorial in POOLEWP 3070 is marked Bergin John St., earliest date Dec 1919.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:50:40

    I think the Margaret who died in 1928 is this one in the 1901 census, her location Keiloge. In the 1901 census, John Bergin's birthplace is Kielogue.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:57:42

    The image of the record of John's birth is missing, but younger brother Francis (also born in Keilogue per the 1901 census) is here in 1886, mother Margaret, father Francis a stonecutter. Suggests to me that Margaret is John's mother (although she is recorded as a widow in 1901).

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 11:58:59

    So I think that in 1928 John Bergin was preparing to make a monument for his mother, and had Poole take pics of some celtic crosses he liked. If so, we might find a Celtic Cross monument to Margaret Bergin signed Bergin somewhere.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 02/Nov/2022 12:12:07

    While looking, I found this transcribed from Carbally graveyard: No. 4 Treasured Memories | of | A loving wife and mother | CATHERINE (KITTY) ACHESON | 1 Perrins Cottages Ballytruckle | Died 23rd Dec 1998 aged 75 years. | Her beloved husband | EDWARD (TEDDY) ACHESON | Died 17th Jan 2011 aged 85 years. | Bergin | Rest in Peace | John St. So Bergins of John St. were still making headstones in 2011!