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Where: Leinster, Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown, Ireland

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We have been to Kingstown / Dun Laoghaire on many occasions over the years and we have seen the Pavilion before, but I do not believe we have ever seen it from this point of view? It is amazing how much detail Mr French manages to get into this photograph.

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1865 - 1914 1903

NLI Ref: L_IMP_1722

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 10/Nov/2022 08:18:49

    That two-masted steam yacht(?) In the middle looks special. I like the two ladies having a natter on the bench. The gent in the bowler mid right looks like he knows the photographer.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Nov/2022 08:31:12

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Lots of work going on, I wonder if we are near the opening?

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 10/Nov/2022 08:36:44

    Arciseek has a colourized version - www.archiseek.com/2012/the-pavilion-dun-laoghaire-co-dubl... (Hope this works - I am trying to research this on a phone!)

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 10/Nov/2022 08:45:20

    Does the flag say "PAVILION OPEN" , or is it my wishful thinking? 1904 ...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Nov/2022 09:07:52

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I think there are too many letters for "OPEN"? Edit - I'm thinking Garden or Gardens?

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Nov/2022 09:38:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ ‘Pavillion Gardens’?

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Nov/2022 09:40:31

    Taken from the Royal Marine Hotel?

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    Quite Adept

    • 10/Nov/2022 09:47:10

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] it is definitely ‘Gardens’. This webpage mentions The Pavilion & Gardens Kingstown Ltd. was officially opened on 22 June 1903 - www.paviliontheatre.ie/about/history

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    O Mac

    • 10/Nov/2022 10:36:03

    King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra arrived at Kingstown July 1903..Maybe yacht has something to do with the visit.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Nov/2022 10:46:32

    Previously: Town Hall, Kingstown

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Nov/2022 10:55:51

    Under that one, I guessed that L_ROY_00689 (a similar view to today's) was June 1905 based on work by [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] This one is clearly earlier, with builders rubble to the right of the pavilion. I think on or near opening day 1903 is a good bet.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Nov/2022 11:13:01

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I am inclined to agree.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Nov/2022 11:14:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I think there would be more Navy ships in attendance if it were?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Nov/2022 11:25:03

    L_CAB_01188 is within minutes of todays Imperial.

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Nov/2022 14:11:33

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] The royal yacht at that time was the Victoria and Albert, which was a paddle steamer with two funnels.

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Nov/2022 14:22:54

    I wonder if it's the steam yacht Sabrina. Western Daily Press - Saturday 12 September 1903:

    SIB WM. WLLLS'S YACHT SAFE. The steam yacht Sabrina with Sir W. H. Wills on board, which left Gosport July and since been cruising around the English coast, seems to have encountered the severe gale. The following telegram was received Bristol to-day from Sir William: Steam yacht Sabrina, Kingstown Harbour. All well.—-Wills."
    It matches the number of funnels and masts, but all the photos returned by a google search for 'steam yacht Sabrina' suggest a white-painted hull, so probably not.

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Nov/2022 14:39:07

    Another candidate is the steam yacht Ceylon, which was "cruising round the British Islands with a large number of tourists on board" , which was due to arrive at Kingstown on Thursday 3rd September (Irish Independent - Tuesday 01 September 1903).

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    simonov

    • 10/Nov/2022 15:12:50

    In my youth I worked at a photo processing lab with a professional clientele. Some of our customers used 4x5 and even 8x10 negatives. The detail in prints we made from such large format negatives was astonishing, orders of magnitude greater than what was possible with 35mm.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Nov/2022 16:07:52

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonov Imperial plates are 31 x 25 cm

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Nov/2022 16:20:14

    What was on offer at the Pavilion Gardens? Irish Independent - Friday 03 July 1903Irish Independent - Friday 03 July 1903

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    simonov

    • 10/Nov/2022 17:08:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ That’s a huge format. The detail in the prints must have been extraordinary.

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Nov/2022 17:17:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ That 6d admission price would be about £2.35 today, still a bargain!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Nov/2022 19:10:36

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] Gordon Bennett!

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Nov/2022 20:47:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ https://flic.kr/p/2nYuLWC It’s ‘Garden(s)’

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Nov/2022 20:49:14

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I wonder if we have some shots of the Gordon Bennett in the library?

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Nov/2022 21:56:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley The notices next to the Pavilion Gardens advert were to do with the Gordon Bennet: - At the Empire Palace Theatre, "EDISON'S OPERATORS have achieved the Most Marvellous Success in the ANNALS OF ANIMATED PHOTOGRAPHY. The Operators only arrived from the course at 5 o'clock last night and reproduced at 9 o'clock THE INTENSELY EXCITING RACE In its Almost Entirety." - EXHIBITION of COMPETING CARS at the Irish Automobile Club Garage. - Special arrangements for the conveyance of competing motor cars from North Wall to Holyhead on ships of the London and North-Western Railway Company. - In addition, motor speed trial in Phoenix Park - adverts for battery charging at Egan & Tatlow of Fleet Street, and for motoring accessories at Richard Allen of Sackville St. Also the Clipper Pneumatic Tyre Co of Coventry wished it to be known that during Irish Fortnight stocks of their tyres were available at various specified agencies in Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Carlow.

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Nov/2022 22:01:51

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Pathé News Gordon Bennett 1903 in Ireland www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK8FJmr3C34

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Nov/2022 23:40:15

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Filmed at the Moat of Scull on the R418, the old road to Kilkenny. Now a lovely picnic spot with Gordon Bennett plaque with route map and list of drivers. PS. May be the origin of the colour called ‘British racing green’ as each team represented their country and legend has it that the British team chose green in honour of the host country. PPS. Motor racing on public roads was prohibited in Britain, hence the Irish venue.

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    Deirge (Del)

    • 11/Nov/2022 06:42:59

    Interesting contrast was this earlier image commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carlisle-Pier-and-east-Ki... by George Clarendon which aimed to get more of Carlisle Pier rather than centring Hill of Howth in the background. The shed on Carlisle Pier was more basic and I suspect large ships could be accommodated in the later photo

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 11/Nov/2022 07:06:56

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] interesting photo.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 11/Nov/2022 10:53:53

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Per this history page at petrolicious dot com, in 1900 the nations/colours in motor racing were blue for France, yellow for Belgium, white for Germany and red for Italy, so red, white and blue were already taken before the UK entered. Hence green for Ireland.

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 14/Nov/2022 22:18:32

    A bit late to the party but . . . upper wall on the pier beyond Boyd Monument is still under construction.