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I suspect that more of our followers can remember the cigarette brand Sweet Afton than remember this scene. The wonderful Mr. O'Dea who recorded the late history of Irish Railways entitled this image "Railcar A1, Ballybay Bridge, Co. Monaghan". I stand to be corrected but as far as I know that line is one of those that has now closed and naught but the ghost of Railcar A1 runs along that route now?
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Photographer: James P. O'Dea
Collection:James P. O'Dea
Date: December 28 1959
NLI Ref.: ODEA 18/11
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Source: Flickr Commons
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Lest I forget we, the Three Marys and all at the NLI Photographic Archive would like to wish those who follow, comment and support this stream a very Happy, Healthy and successful 2023. May the sun shine upon your fields, may the wind be always at your back and may you umbrella open in time when it rains!
Photographer: James P. O'Dea
Collection:James P. O'Dea
Date: December 28 1959
NLI Ref.: ODEA 18/11
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Deirge (Del)
(guess) Is perchance that luggage wagon being propelled by that articulated railcar? (This is distracting me from getting to some negative digitisation to replace a O'Dea Thurles image on Wikipedia & Wikimedia commons up for a possible copyvio)
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Good morning Deirge, yes it does appear to be hitched to the railcar.
Foxglove
happy new year .... always remember that trips "down south" needed a readjustment to Carrols and Aftons .... now thankfully I need no adjustments anywhere and save a lot of money.... humming " I hear that that lonesome whistle blow"
Foxglove
some may be able to ID the car boot ??
O Mac
Completely changed scene today... maps.app.goo.gl/YB8Eegw7f7s4XDFY6
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
If only that Luggage Wagon idea could be re-imagined for today's bikes.
Deirge (Del)
I was looking for 'diesel dawn' but have Patterson (2003) to hand. 90hp Railcar 'C' was born in 1934 but it seems unlike the earlier 'A' and 'B' could only be driven from the the articulated power bogie end only and had to be turned on the turntable at the end of its journey. It became C.1 when C.2 and C.3 came along which generally were operated back to back joined together mostly so they did not need the turntable and generally poddled between Amiens Street and Howth/Balbriggan it seems.
Deirge (Del)
Re: Caption: "Railcar A1" ... that does not look like pictures of railcar "A" ....
Deirge (Del)
Is it me or is there no driver in the leading cab? Which might make it a ghost train. I thought the best ghost trains in Ireland were at the Cavan & Leitrim in Dromod.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Is the driver at the other end? Which might mean it was travelling left to right with the wagon leading? 28 December 1959 was a Monday ...
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ There's the letter C and the number 1 or 2 written on the carriage between the two doors.
John Spooner
I wonder if the building visible beyond the bridge is the premises of George McParland, a tailor "for a long number of years" and also for 30 years rent rent collector for Ballybay Town Commissioners. He died aged 74 in July 1963, but had been active in both roles until shortly before his death. His residence was a short distance along Castleblaney Road at 1 Pearce Place, (now All Creatures Veterinary Group). Obituary in Drogheda Argus and Leinster Journal - Saturday 27 July 1963. The door appears to be open and a female figure is looking out.
Deirge (Del)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia The information in Patterson specifically says the 'C' class railcar can only be driven from the articulated power bogie end. While that seems daft from a 2023 viewpoint the technology and practice in 1930s would have been different and use of a turntable seen not to be to problematic in many cases. Some guys at the IRRS know all about these but myself I've only read about them in books and its only more recently I've become more aware of the development of the railcar in Ireland.
Deirge (Del)
I assume O'Dea drove and that his not his bicycle. Given as late as mid 1980's in South Sligo I was at times told to leave my car keys in the ignition in case someone might come along and want to move it .... times have changed.
O Mac
By 1959 the seats had been removed and the railcars used for parcels and post.. Note bars on windows above. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000304553
suckindeesel
https://flic.kr/p/JAUwtZ Described as a GNRI Walker railcar
suckindeesel
maps.app.goo.gl/ry1KKj83A7Q1mZeg9?g_st=ic The remaining bridge abutment
Deirge (Del)
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Interesting photo of the mail train. Somehow immediately brought me to mind of the film The First Great Train robbery (1979) with Connery, Sutherland and Down which while set in England was filmed in Ireland with old engines and carriages from Ireland available on BBC iPlayer for a short while.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Driving from one end only sounds a lot like the Walker narrow gauge rail cars used by the County Donegal Railways Joint Committee. The ones now in the IOM. I can’t find any info, other than that Flickr photo above, about this railcar type. No wiki listing that I can find.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I think I can make out vertical bars on our railcar also. It appears to fitted with a cab each end, which implies ability to drive from either end.
Deirge (Del)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] There's no Wikipedia item because I'm indefinitely blocked from writing articles on the English Wikipedia for Competence is required and battleground. Colm's Flanagan specifically mentions that Railcar C aka C1 could only be driven from one end only remarked the other end was curved entertaining putting a cab there was thought about. Top speed was 46mph. The power bogies was built by Walkers of Wigan, the driver sitting the right of the Gardiner engine. Flanagan states the later C2/C3 (which had a more flat unpowered end) were intended to be operated back to back but later operated mostly operated by themselves. 2.5T luggage wagons were apparently commonly hauled by these types.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Thanks for the info, so that’s what that trailer was for. Still, it’s strange that there’s little or nothing about them on the internet. Photo dates from 1959, some years after the demise of the GNRI, whose logo it still shows. By that time the service was was run by CIE which means C1, at least, had passed into CIE ownership.
oaktree_brian_1976
Sweet Afton's were gone by 2011.
oaktree_brian_1976
250 hp car, steel body on wood frame, steam heating, rated to 120 kph. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNRI_AEC_Class
mikeyashworth
A couple of Walker adverts - one closer to home than the other! https://flic.kr/p/ZmG4XL https://flic.kr/p/ZwpdwT
O Mac
Deirge (Del) suckindeesel Here's a short clip of railcar C1 doing its thing in wonderful technicolor. Could be the same as seen above. lovely slow revving engine sounds....sounds like the old GARDNER – 5L3 youtube.com/clip/UgkxZukBC9vTrPlJk8VqJ_xNkHUnNVvGQUh_