Amazingly Ardfert Abbey appears to have shrunk?

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Where: Munster, Co Kerry, Ireland

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While this may or may not be downtown Ardfert then either that wee building in the square is the smallest Abbey in Ireland or the Krazy Kataloguers have been at it again. Wherever we may be the scene is pleasant, seemingly warm, certainly dry and the photographer was the centre of attention - if only for the time it took to take the photograph.
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Collection: Eason Photographic Collection

Date: between 1900-1939

NLI Ref: EAS_2218

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 10/Jan/2023 09:11:43

    Even the donkey is looking at the camera. Not a great deal has changed in over 100 years - Streetview July 2022 - goo.gl/maps/JGnLsdFamF9UZ66e7

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 09:30:11

    The "Freestanding Hiberno Romanesque style memorial fountain" is dated 1901 per the NIAH.

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Jan/2023 09:41:49

    That ‘tower’ hiding in the background has a plaque saying L.T.C. 1901

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 09:43:51

    The pub centre left is labelled M. O'Flaherty, building is still labelled M.B. O'Flaherty in Streetview. Michael Flaherty shopkeeper/publican is 35 in 1911. Michael marries Catherine McGrath in Tralee 1913. Son Michael in 1917. Michael the Da dies in 1946 aged 70, widow Nora(?) present, Ardfert.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 10:07:58

    The building just left of the fountain is marked as Constabulary Barrack on the 25", and I think that sign is an RIC one? meaning pre-Independence.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 10:31:03

    Ardfert Abbey is a ruined Franciscan abbey, or nearby Big House named for it (no longer standing), just East of the town. THe plaque on the fountain says : 1901 The Ardfert Water Supply was provided by Lieut Colonel Talbot-Crosbie and this fountain erected to his memory and for the public good by his brother Lindsay Talbot-Crosbie of Ardfert Abbey

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 10:34:20

    The title may have been switched with EAS_2219, which shows the ruined abbey but is titled Ardfert Village, Ardfert, Co. Kerry

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 10:50:30

    The water supply did not buy the Crosbies much goodwill, they evacuated before the IRA burned down the Big House in 1922. Lindsay's son D. Bligh Talbot-Crosbie (B.A. Author) is at home alone in 1911 apart from 8 servants. He seems to have written a Book of Pomes.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 11:02:08

    The lad credited on the plaque would be John Talbot Darnley Talbot-Crosbie, a Lt.-Col. of the Kings Royal Rifle Corps.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 12:38:52

    Lindsay's father WIlliam: when William Talbot Crosbie died in 1899 he owned nearly 10,000 acres. In the middle of the nineteenth century he began to redesign his estate in Ardfert. The subsequent demolition of dozens of houses and the eviction of tenants led William to become known locally as Billy the Leveller. You can see it in the change from the 1830s 6" to the 1900ish 25": whole streets just vanish.

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Jan/2023 12:58:49

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369211@N00/ https://flic.kr/p/2oaN6dj Same sign, but which lot of rozzers?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 13:47:27

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04] In various NLI pics, the RIC station badge is on a square, circular or diamond plaque. I think the Gardaí have always used a square sign. Here is a 1910 illo of the RIC badge on a diamond shaped plaque: Royal Irish Constabulary Station Badges

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Jan/2023 15:33:36

    Kerryman - Friday 07 January 2000:

    Mike O'Flaherty from Ardfert places his family- owned bar on the market after running it for 22 years. In the family for four generations (for the past 130 years), this priipetty is being sold by Tralee Auctioneer Donal O'Connell and is expected to fetch £500,000

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Jan/2023 18:56:42

    So the last Michael ran the bar from 1978 to 2000. Our Michael was running it in 1911, dies in 1946. Room for a 3rd one to run it from 1940ish to 1978. Four generations needs one more. In 1901, sister Kate (28) is the boss. At our Michael's birth in 1875, his father Michael is a Slater. Likewise for sister Hannah's birth in 1880. I think Michael the slater died in 1896, the calendar of wills records the death of Michael Flaherty, shopkeeper, late of Ardfert, which would make him the first generation.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 10/Jan/2023 19:38:35

    Imitation is the sincerest form o' flaherty ... {not Oscar}

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    suckindeesel

    • 10/Jan/2023 20:33:10

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Yes, it must be an RIC barracks. So, date range 1901 - 1922

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    Denis Moynihan

    • 10/Jan/2023 22:57:11

    Great memories of nights in O’Flaherty’s on summer holidays back in the 80s and 90s.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 11/Jan/2023 16:52:18

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369211@N00/ As a local I can confirm this. This is a pic of the village. If the camera were rotated 180 degrees or so, it would be taking a picture of the “Glandore Gate”, the gate lodge which is pretty much all that is left of Ardfert Abbey (the Big House) which was destroyed in 1922. Ardfert Abbey is also the name given to the ruins of the Franciscan Friary after which the Big House was named.