suckindeesel

• 25/Jul/2023 07:58:17

“The Lord High Chancellor of Ireland (commonly known as Lord Chancellor of Ireland) was the highest judicial office in Ireland until the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922. From 1721 to 1801, it was also the highest political office of the Irish Parliament: the Chancellor was Speaker of the Irish House of Lords. The Lord Chancellor was also Lord Keeper of the Great Seal of Ireland. In all three respects, the office mirrored the Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Chancellor_of_Ireland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_O%27Brien,_1st_Baron_Shandon He left Ireland for good following a SF raid n his home

suckindeesel

• 25/Jul/2023 08:45:47

He held the post from 1913 to 1918, so that’s the date range

Niall McAuley

• 25/Jul/2023 09:46:43

we have seen silhouette images like this from Poole of people at the races

Carol Maddock

• 25/Jul/2023 10:55:39

I always love a "life" in the DIB written by Patrick Maume, and Ignatius John O'Brien's is no exception. Well worth a read. Some delicacies to tempt you...

... Many years later, as a successful judge, he recalled with horror such journalistic experiences as attending inquests on paupers; being sent to the house where Isaac Butt lay dying, with peremptory orders to knock at intervals and ask if he had died yet; and witnessing the Maamtrasna murder trials, at which an aristocratic lady (whom he compared to Jezebel) sat on the bench and pronounced it excellent entertainment... ... O'Brien's self-assertion and lack of clubbability were signalled by his decision to become the first Dublin barrister to live outside the North and South Circular Roads – barristers then held consultations in their own houses, and feared solicitors would boycott anyone who moved into the suburbs. O'Brien did business from an office in Merrion Square, and travelled to his new residence (Ardtona, on eleven acres in Churchtown, near Dundrum) by bicycle... ... He was dismissed as lord chancellor in June 1918 and promoted to the peerage as Baron Shandon in consolation. His abrupt departure (seen as reflecting the increasing dominance of Dublin Castle hard-liners) provoked considerable comment. One Law Library wit suggested he should have become Baron Stepaside; another, in a cruel reference to his childlessness, preferred ‘Lord Stillorgan’... ... a sensitive and somewhat neurotic meritocrat, haunted at the sufferings inflicted by inefficiency, and believing that the great fault of British administration of Ireland under the union was not so much brutality as stupidity.

suckindeesel

• 25/Jul/2023 12:23:24

I wonder if this is the ‘Ardtona’ earth.app.goo.gl/VwwjEB #googleearth More Churchtown than Dundrum. That general area was the location of many villas of the 19th century rich.

John Spooner

• 25/Jul/2023 13:29:25

Shouldn't it be 'Right Honourable' given he was a Privy Councillor from 1913 onwards? I associate the plain 'Honourable' as being bestowed on younger children of peers who had no title of their own. And the papers referred to today's subject as Right Hon. Sir Ignatius O'Brien, Bart (Freeman's Journal - Saturday 1 January 1916, on his getting a baronetcy in the new year's honours)

Niall McAuley

• 25/Jul/2023 14:57:47

http://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04/ Yes, I think that is the right house. I used to go by on my way to school.

Niall McAuley

• 25/Jul/2023 15:00:25

we guessed 1910-14 for some other Poole silhouette shots

Niall McAuley

• 25/Jul/2023 15:04:02

paging forward in the Poole catalogue, the next dated Shot is ca. 26 May 1916

suckindeesel

• 25/Jul/2023 15:07:05

[https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369211@N00/] Just a wild guess maps.app.goo.gl/YNTTFWTFC6SAT7Rm8?g_st=im

John Spooner

• 25/Jul/2023 17:22:46

From the list of properties to be auctioned by Battersby & Co ('Phones 48 & 49) in Freeman's Journal - Saturday 19 April 1924

ARDTONA, CHURCHTOWN, DUNDRUM. 24th April POSSESSION ON 13 ACRES. Handsome Residence. with an imposing frontage. having entrance hall and lounge hall off. with oak-Panelled walls: large dining room. with wall in silk panel tapestries: billiard room. double drawing room. decorated same as diningroom: boudoir. 7 bedrooms. 3 maids' rooms, bathroom, cloakroom, breakfast room , servants' hall, large garden, 3 glass-houses. dairy yard. fruit and vegetable garden. tennis-ground; teahouse: garage. electric light. Seen on order. Held for 10.000 years.subject to £94 7/6.

Niall McAuley

• 25/Jul/2023 19:31:40

Suck Diesel I did indeed attend DLS secondary school, but I passed Ardtona at a younger age on my way here: 50 St. Columbanus' Road maps.app.goo.gl/KdAPkTkSukVH6sQEA which is right beside this ODea we had earlier: flic.kr/p/dK7QVy

suckindeesel

• 25/Jul/2023 22:07:36

Niall McAuley I can remember the footbridge being here, pre Luas of course maps.app.goo.gl/pj8nCyajXfxaRCu67?g_st=ic

CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

• 26/Jul/2023 04:30:16

Would it be a sin to refer to someone with titles as, "Mister" versus Lord, Dame, High Priest, Right Honourable? Is there a Left Honourable?

suckindeesel

• 26/Jul/2023 05:24:21

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41048895@N03/ "As for a title, a title is really rather a nuisance in these democratic days. As George Harford I had everything I wanted. Now I have merely everything that other people want, which isn't nearly so pleasant." - A Woman of No Importance by Oscar Wilde

Niall McAuley

• 26/Jul/2023 13:18:04

http://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04/ Yes, that's the other side of the bridge. you can see the red brick school on the right in your streetview