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Carlisle Circus in Belfast before the advent of modern traffic when ladies looked elegant and horses were still beasts of burden! This looks like an early morning shot from the lens of Mr. French so he was probably on a mission to get to a few places on that same fine day?
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Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Circa 1865 - 1914
NLI Ref: L_ROY_08987
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Congratulations to all on our achieving 110 million views yesterday! As nice as it is to get to that level the contributions of our many Flickroonies are the most valuable asset so thank you one and all. A Virtual Sticky Bun with extra Toffee is on the way to each and every one!
Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Circa 1865 - 1914
NLI Ref: L_ROY_08987
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
9:28 - a clock at last!
suckindeesel
1905 onwards, electric trams
suckindeesel
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Flickr is sometimes amazing! Via https://www.flickr.com/photos/proni/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/proni/16221904092/
Foxglove
I spot a (two legs good) dog just under the "m" of Chemist... I will have my sticky bun at 9/30
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Roaring Hanna! See - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Hanna
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Worth a look - in 1990 without Hanna statue - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000342792
John Spooner
I see that one of the roads debouching into Carlisle Circus is Clifton Street, and conveniently when the premises previously occupied by Mr Agnew were to let, the advert said how long he had been there
(Belfast News-Letter - Monday 13 January 1902)
That 'eight years' gives us a date range of 1894-1901 inclusive.John Spooner
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29809546@N00/ The evidence of the electric trams would suggest otherwise (1905). It could be that Agnew moved his chemist shop from Clifden Street to Carlisle Circus in 1901
John Spooner
https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 Ah. I'll have a further delve.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29809546@N00/ That date range doesn’t gel with the appearance of the electric tram, 1905 The Lennon Wylie of 1907 includes 2 shop locations for Agnew. He’s not mentioned in the 1908 edition. So, I reckon a date range of 1905 - 1907, at most
John Spooner
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03] You're both right, of course
(Belfast News-Letter - Wednesday 22 May 1901)
PS that looks like a huge telephone number for 1901. I supposed the zero allows for expansion of the telephone system.
John Spooner
The opening of the new premises was announced on 29th May 1901
John Spooner
R. W. McKnight took over in 1907
(Belfast Telegraph - Saturday 15 June 1907)
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29809546@N00/ As children we had a rude explanation of the initials ‘M.P.S.I.’
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04/ Do tell...
John Spooner
I wondered what happened to John William Walden Agnew. Until 1906 the Belfast newspapers had lots of reports of his musical accomplishments - he was a bass and performed both in choirs and as a soloist (including at the annual concerts of the Irish Chemists and Druggists' society). But in 1906, at the time his chemist business was taken over, the reports of his singing stopped I wondered if it was a disappearance a la A H Poole, or a sudden death. I couldn't find any news of a funeral or obituary. Not until 1950 a notice of death of a chemist Agnew, formerly of Belfast, who died in London in 1950. Anyway, JWWA was born in 1872 in Belfast (1901 census - no mention of him in 1911) In 1902 he married Marie Shaw in Belfast In the 1911 English census, he's in Gloucester, a 'commercial traveller, soap' , still married to Marie, with a daughter, niece and servant. In 1913 the Gloucester newspapers have notices that he's auctioning the contents of his house. Also in 1913 he started divorce proceedings against Marie, naming Arthur Eric Smith as co-respondent. The divorce was not contested and a degree absolute was granted later in the year. To have a servant, a well furnished house and to be able to afford divorce proceedings suggests he wasn't badly off financially. At some point after this he moved to London. Here things become a little tricky, because his uncle, also John William Walden Agnew (b 1854 in Sligo) also lived in London, and had been there from the 1890s. He was a local councillor in Hornsey, Middlesex and died in 1927, (and was also referred to as J W W Agnew in the press). Nephew JWWA lived in south London (Camberwell from at least 1920 according to electoral registers) 1921 census he's "Ph Chemist & Wholesale & Manufact, Travelling Salesman To Chemists" employed a Southwark company. According to his 1950 obituary, he had opened chemist shops in 1929 and 1931. It also mentions his musical accomplishments, his second wife Margaret and his Belfast childhood. But no clues as to why he left an apparently thriving business in a prime location in Belfast to move to Gloucester. After retirement in 1946 he visited Belfast several times to see old friends. Another obituary mentions that he kept his shop open during WWII, despite severe damage from flying bombs.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/47290943@N03/ Well, you did ask! ‘Monkey’s P Sold Inside’
oaktree_brian_1976
Statue of Hanna was erected in 1894, IRA blew it up in 1970. So no earlier than 1894.
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29809546@N00/ So, date range now 1905 - June 1907, say c.1906
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04/ Excellent! :D
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
There are several views around Carlisle Circus showing new tram stuff (likely same day?) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000338176 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322997 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000324064 Mr French / Lawrence was perched upstairs a few doors along from Mr Agnew's for the last two.
billh35
The reason for wanting to be on Carlisle Circus was because of the pharmacies covenient location for the nearby Ben Hospital in Glenravel Street and, more importantly, the Mater Hospital around the corner at the bottom of the Crumlin Road.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/38401430@N06 Thanks Bill. Mary