Something a little different for this morning with a Postcard from the Library's "Ephemera Collection"! Young ladies in the Teacher Training College in Carysfort Park learning needlework on the front and a lovely note from one young lady to another on the reverse! How much, if anything, can we learn of the college and the two ladies, Cis and May?
Photographer:
None
Collection:
NLI Ephemera Collection
Date:
Pre 1922 June 24th 1912 @ 5.45pm
NLI Ref.:
EPH A481
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Owner:
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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O Mac
The George V stamp is franked 1912 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000516696
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 Good point, I will go with the date the stamp was cancelled. As good as any clock!
O Mac
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47290943@N03/ Hi Mary, You're NLI Ref: link above ain't working. I think the stamp is franked June 24th 1912.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
This photo is sew good ! It had me in stitches and hanging by a thread !
John Spooner
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Cis and May (sewl mates) are on the left table with their friends Polly and Esther (material girls).
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 Not doing too well here at the moment - corrections made.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Ha HA https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Very good
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
... By 1877, the number of applicants for places on the Baggot Street training course was so great that the convent built a new training school. It was called Sedes Sapientiae, in honour of its patron, Our Lady Seat of Wisdom. In 1883 the school was formally recognised as a training centre for female students, under the title of Our Lady of Mercy College. The college moved to the Carysfort campus in 1903 where it remained until its closure in 1988. From - sistersofmercy.ie/2021/09/from-the-archives/ So photo is 1903 +
John Spooner
The college was inspected by the Commission on Manual and Practical Instruction in 1897, as reported by Freeman's Journal on Saturday 22 May 1897 including this passage:
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[https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] An new one for me - Tonic sol-fa (or tonic sol-fah) is a pedagogical technique for teaching sight-singing, invented by Sarah Ann Glover (1785–1867) of Norwich, England and popularised by John Curwen, who adapted it from a number of earlier musical systems. It uses a system of musical notation based on movable do solfège, whereby every note is given a name according to its relationship with other notes in the key: the usual staff notation is replaced with anglicized solfège syllables (e.g. do, re, mi, fa, sol, la, ti, do) or their abbreviations (d, r, m, f, s, l, t, d). From Wikipedia
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia The original https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7506677376
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Well I'll be darned !
John Spooner
I've only just noticed that the advert is for the Preparatory College and not the Training College itself. The ladylike ladies look older than 14-17.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
" ... Noted past academics at the college include Seamus Heaney, Eoin MacNeill, Pat Wall and Éamon de Valera (Professor of Mathematics, 1906–1916). ... " From - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carysfort_College Can we see him here?
Niall McAuley
That date matches the card as written, where May says her exams are near and she can go up home on 4th July. Her friend is Cis Cullen, at St. Brigid's Mercy Convent, Tuam. Scoil Bhríde is still there, on the Dublin Road.
Niall McAuley
There were 4 students named May in Carysfort for the 1911 census: May Barret, 19, from Co. Cork and lower on that same page, May Murphy, 21, Co. Mayo, and lower, May Mooney, 19, Co. Dublin and May Shine, Co. Cork. Of course this May might be a nick name...
suckindeesel
King’s Scholars api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/01/ki...
O Mac
I'd no idea that the Many Marys were into deltiology!
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 I beg your pardon; we have been fervent deltiologists from the time you could buy a first class stamp for less than 2d.
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Gratuitous teaching! Without so much as a by-your-leave!
suckindeesel
https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369211@N00/ ‘Cis’ could be a diminutive of Cecilia
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Thank you for your help with this one, fantastic job as usual. Mary
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04 Could be - I don't see a likely Cecelia Cullen in 1911. But Cis could also be Frances or just a girl who has no sisters, only brothers.
Bernard Healy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Or Elizabeth or Alice...
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Now more commonly known as the UCD Michael Smurfit Graduate Business School which I attended while my Auntie attended it in its earlier guise as a teacher training school. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carysfort_College en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Smurfit_Graduate_Business_S...
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