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Something a little different for this morning with a Postcard from the Library's "Ephemera Collection"! Young ladies in the Teacher Training College in Carysfort Park learning needlework on the front and a lovely note from one young lady to another on the reverse! How much, if anything, can we learn of the college and the two ladies, Cis and May?

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Collection:NLI Ephemera Collection

Date: Pre 1922 June 24th 1912 @ 5.45pm

NLI Ref.: EPH A481

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    O Mac

    • 04/Oct/2023 09:33:15

    The George V stamp is franked 1912 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000516696

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Oct/2023 09:38:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 Good point, I will go with the date the stamp was cancelled. As good as any clock!

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    O Mac

    • 04/Oct/2023 09:47:40

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/47290943@N03/ Hi Mary, You're NLI Ref: link above ain't working. I think the stamp is franked June 24th 1912.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 04/Oct/2023 09:57:08

    This photo is sew good ! It had me in stitches and hanging by a thread !

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    John Spooner

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:12:10

    Dublin Leader - Saturday 23 July 1910No mention of needlework. Is washing optional?

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:12:36

    Cis and May (sewl mates) are on the left table with their friends Polly and Esther (material girls).

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:15:06

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 Not doing too well here at the moment - corrections made.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:15:37

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Ha HA https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Very good

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:17:50

    ... By 1877, the number of applicants for places on the Baggot Street training course was so great that the convent built a new training school. It was called Sedes Sapientiae, in honour of its patron, Our Lady Seat of Wisdom. In 1883 the school was formally recognised as a training centre for female students, under the title of Our Lady of Mercy College. The college moved to the Carysfort campus in 1903 where it remained until its closure in 1988. From - sistersofmercy.ie/2021/09/from-the-archives/ So photo is 1903 +

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    John Spooner

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:20:40

    The college was inspected by the Commission on Manual and Practical Instruction in 1897, as reported by Freeman's Journal on Saturday 22 May 1897 including this passage:

    Classes, too, at industrial work were here inspected; one engaged at plain sewing, another at art needlework, such as gold embroidery and the tracing of coloured designs. How practical is the teaching was shown by the fact that in the presence of the Commissioners some of the pupils took the measurements of a companion as if in a dressmaker's warerooms, transferred these measures to paper, cut out on the paper a "pattern" or model, and proceeded in most businesslike fashion to construct a costume in accordance with this modeL

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:21:10

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] An new one for me - Tonic sol-fa (or tonic sol-fah) is a pedagogical technique for teaching sight-singing, invented by Sarah Ann Glover (1785–1867) of Norwich, England and popularised by John Curwen, who adapted it from a number of earlier musical systems. It uses a system of musical notation based on movable do solfège, whereby every note is given a name according to its relationship with other notes in the key: the usual staff notation is replaced with anglicized solfège syllables (e.g. do, re, mi, fa, sol, la, ti, do) or their abbreviations (d, r, m, f, s, l, t, d). From Wikipedia

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:25:21

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia The original https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7506677376

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:34:07

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Well I'll be darned !

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    John Spooner

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:42:20

    I've only just noticed that the advert is for the Preparatory College and not the Training College itself. The ladylike ladies look older than 14-17.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 04/Oct/2023 10:57:55

    " ... Noted past academics at the college include Seamus Heaney, Eoin MacNeill, Pat Wall and Éamon de Valera (Professor of Mathematics, 1906–1916). ... " From - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carysfort_College Can we see him here?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Oct/2023 12:10:52

    That date matches the card as written, where May says her exams are near and she can go up home on 4th July. Her friend is Cis Cullen, at St. Brigid's Mercy Convent, Tuam. Scoil Bhríde is still there, on the Dublin Road.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Oct/2023 12:31:52

    There were 4 students named May in Carysfort for the 1911 census: May Barret, 19, from Co. Cork and lower on that same page, May Murphy, 21, Co. Mayo, and lower, May Mooney, 19, Co. Dublin and May Shine, Co. Cork. Of course this May might be a nick name...

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    suckindeesel

    • 04/Oct/2023 12:37:02

    King’s Scholars api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/01/ki...

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    O Mac

    • 04/Oct/2023 13:58:34

    I'd no idea that the Many Marys were into deltiology!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Oct/2023 15:44:06

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03 I beg your pardon; we have been fervent deltiologists from the time you could buy a first class stamp for less than 2d.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Oct/2023 16:33:20

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner Gratuitous teaching! Without so much as a by-your-leave!

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    suckindeesel

    • 04/Oct/2023 19:55:20

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369211@N00/ ‘Cis’ could be a diminutive of Cecilia

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2023 08:21:36

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04 Could be - I don't see a likely Cecelia Cullen in 1911. But Cis could also be Frances or just a girl who has no sisters, only brothers.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 05/Oct/2023 11:45:35

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Or Elizabeth or Alice...

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    Architecture of Dublin

    • 17/Oct/2023 09:30:36

    Now more commonly known as the UCD Michael Smurfit Graduate Business School which I attended while my Auntie attended it in its earlier guise as a teacher training school. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carysfort_College en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Smurfit_Graduate_Business_S...

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    Architecture of Dublin

    • 17/Oct/2023 09:36:34

    commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Michael_Smurfit_Gradu...